So is Tom Ryan officially a genius?

[lu1979 568]

There was a lot of talk on this forum saying TR was making a mistake pulling the redshirts for both Snyder and Martin.  Those weights couldn't have worked out better for Ohio St.  

[NYWRESTLER94 221]

He's always been a genius GO BUCKS

[newyorkwrestler 258]

The criticism over pulling snyders redshirt had nothing to do with the ncaa's, and the decision i'm sure wasn't Ryan's either. Snyder beleives he can do it all, he's one step closer after last night

Edited March 21, 2016 by newyorkwrestler

[scribe 1,845]

They didn't seriously challenge for the team title, in spite of these adjustments. But overall produced very well. I remember when tOSU was scratching at the basement of the big10 and the program was habitually moribund. Not very long ago.

[LemonPie 1,368]

Micah Jordan would have made AA at 149....

[LemonPie 1,368]

Possibly even 157

[LkwdSteve 142]

The recipe for change was Athletic Director Gene Smith.

[meluvwrestling 26]

The criticism over pulling snyders redshirt had nothing to do with the ncaa's, and the decision i'm sure wasn't Ryan's either. Snyder beleives he can do it all, he's one step closer after last night

The decision was all TR.  TR investigated the situation with the NCAAs prior to talking with Kyle Snyder's parents and then eventually Kyle Snyder himself.  Once that was in motion, TR then went and talked to the Martin family.  There are interviews with Snyder and Ryan regarding how all of this transpired.  

 

The revised plan was set in motion in order to repeat as National Champions.  Even though that didn't workout, individually it worked out for Snyder and Martin.

Edited March 21, 2016 by meluvwrestling

[TBar1977 4,597]

Tom Ryan is a good guy. Like him. I wish Hunter Stieber could have gotten a better fate with his wrestling health.

[Housebuye 2,449]

If hunter was healthy and Micah performed they would've had a shot at winning.

 

Plus tomasello would've likely secured it.

 

They had a chance. Imaginehow badly they would've done if he didn't pull the red shirts

[wrestlingnerd 3,011]

Possibly even 157

No chance. Too big. Did you not see his results at 157? Maybe next year after a Retherford-like lifting program in the off-season.

Edited March 21, 2016 by wrestlingnerd

[LongShot 13]

I don't know enough about the scoring to answer this correctly but IF Tomasello won, Micah made the finals (just sidenote, he did beat Heil twice in HS) and Bo makes the final.  Do they win?  Because I'm not so sure that was too far from happening.  I guess you also have to take into account that if you wrestle that tournament 10x, Myles wins once and Snyder probably 7/10.  so you'd have to take that into account as well.  Lot would have to go their way.

[steamboat_charlie 727]

I don't know enough about the scoring to answer this correctly but IF Tomasello won, Micah made the finals (just sidenote, he did beat Heil twice in HS) and Bo makes the final.  Do they win?  Because I'm not so sure that was too far from happening.  I guess you also have to take into account that if you wrestle that tournament 10x, Myles wins once and Snyder probably 7/10.  so you'd have to take that into account as well.  Lot would have to go their way.

 

PSU finished with 123, OSU finished with 86.  OSU would've needed Tomasello to win it, Micah to place top 3, and one of the supporting cast to mid-AA.  This scenario also assumes Myles wins the title... which even the most optimistic fans thought was a long shot.  

 

 

 

People are focusing on the wrong issues with Micah anyway.  His weight wasn't the issue, and there's no evidence at all that would suggest he would have done better at 149. He's still learning to deal with his nerves in big matches and mentally he locks up his offense.  Hunter was similar in his freshman and sophomore years. Micah has the ability to win a couple of titles over the next few years if he can put it all together (and work on his mat game).

[lu1979 568]

You have to remember that back when TR pulled the redshirts he was still hoping that Hunter would be back close to his old self.  Without a healthy Hunter at 149 it was a long shot for Ohio St to win unless PSU had one of their main guys seriously under perform.  PSUs guys all did pretty much what could be expected of them so they sealed the deal.

[Fishhook 142]

Micah Jordan would have made AA at 149....

He wanted to win it and was very close to beating Meredith.  In the wrestle backs his bottom wrestling, and possibly the hangover of losing in the semis so close, cost him. That could have happened at any weight. But the only chance Micah had of winning an NCAA title this year, was at 141.   

[Bucksfan 67]

He wanted to win it and was very close to beating Meredith.  In the wrestle backs his bottom wrestling, and possibly the hangover of losing in the semis so close, cost him. That could have happened at any weight. But the only chance Micah had of winning an NCAA title this year, was at 141.

 

 

 

Agree. He was like 7 seconds from winning that match vs Meredith. I know it was high school but Micky beat Heil multiple times then and that is something that cannot be discounted in the mental aspect. His best shot was 141, no doubt.

[BobDole 1,227]