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Where does Sueflohn rank among best to never AA


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#1 jammen

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 07:00 AM

Not counting guys who got injured or competed infrequently.  Sueflohn qualified 4 years and was always seeded: 141 10th, 149 9th, rs, 6th, and 7th.


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Posted 24 March 2016 - 07:02 AM

Just short of the top 8.


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Posted 24 March 2016 - 07:08 AM

^ lol

#4 MSU158

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 07:21 AM

Definitely one of the best regular season guys to never AA.  Definitely had some headscratchers come NCAA tourney time.

 

2012-10 seed-Went 1-2 losing in the opening round to Nick Nelson and then beat Mike Kessler before losing to Billy Ashnault.

 

2013-9 seed-Won 1st two matches before losing to Jordan Oliver and then Dylan Ness in R12.  DEFINITELY a bad draw!

 

2014-rs

 

2015-6 seed-Won 1st match then lost to Kinding, won his 2nd match and then lost to Villalonga.

 

2016-7 seed-Won his 1st 2 then lost to Sorenson and then lost to Martinez 7-5 in R12 to fall a tiny bit short of ever becoming an AA.

 

Still, it's a career that most DI wrestlers would trade him for in a heartbeat!  The kid was a goer and always looked like he was giving maximum effort.  He definitely deserves a tip of the cap!


Edited by MSU158, 24 March 2016 - 07:22 AM.

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 07:23 AM

Thomuseit of Pitt was another guy who i can't believe never aaed. He came into the tournament his senior year as the 2 seed.
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Posted 24 March 2016 - 08:40 AM

192nd.



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Posted 24 March 2016 - 09:36 AM

...negative and pointless topic.....



#8 AKHUNTER

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 10:18 AM

...negative and pointless topic.....

I C we agree coach.


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Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:14 PM

I would say "very high." Sueflohn was always fun to watch. I've never really followed NEB wrestling super closely, but Snyder and Burroughs and Sueflohn have been the (3) that have stuck out for me as "don't miss" matches in B1G's and Nationals along the way. Obviously, other guys have done really well at NEB, so I'm sure your favorites may be others, but these (3) are the ones I've followed.

 

[EDIT: "right there with Sanders" is definitely not correct.]


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#10 Mpchillin

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:54 PM

What do you mean when you say "right there with Sanders"? Zach Sanders was a 4-time All-American at Minnesota.

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 12:21 AM

Definitely one of the best regular season guys to never AA.  Definitely had some headscratchers come NCAA tourney time.

 

2012-10 seed-Went 1-2 losing in the opening round to Nick Nelson and then beat Mike Kessler before losing to Billy Ashnault.

 

2013-9 seed-Won 1st two matches before losing to Jordan Oliver and then Dylan Ness in R12.  DEFINITELY a bad draw!

 

2014-rs

 

2015-6 seed-Won 1st match then lost to Kinding, won his 2nd match and then lost to Villalonga.

 

2016-7 seed-Won his 1st 2 then lost to Sorenson and then lost to Martinez 7-5 in R12 to fall a tiny bit short of ever becoming an AA.

 

Still, it's a career that most DI wrestlers would trade him for in a heartbeat!  The kid was a goer and always looked like he was giving maximum effort.  He definitely deserves a tip of the cap!

Really, so in 21 minutes you analyzed every wrestler that never AA'ed over the span of a 88 years and say you have a definitive answer? 


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Posted 25 March 2016 - 12:47 AM

What do you mean when you say "right there with Sanders"? Zach Sanders was a 4-time All-American at Minnesota.


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#13 MSU158

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 01:21 AM

Really, so in 21 minutes you analyzed every wrestler that never AA'ed over the span of a 88 years and say you have a definitive answer? 

Damn, your reading comprehension is literally amazing.  Where do I give a truly definitive answer.  I said he was definitely one of the best REGULAR SEASON wrestlers to not AA.  One of the best is a loose term that I think someone that earned a top 10 seed every season deserves.  He was 24-9,22-5, 29-4 and 27-6 going into each NCAA tournament.  That is a complete pre- NCAA tournament record of 102-24.  How many guys do you know that won over 100 matches wrestling for a B1G team(not including the NCAA tournament) and were never AA's?  He also did it in undeniably the toughest conference, having #1 Russell, #2 Marion, #6 Stieber and #9 Dardanes in his weight his freshman year.  He moved up a weight the next season having #4 Ness, #7 Lopouchanski, #11 Alton and #12 Grajales.  He then had his winningest season having #1 Tsirtsis, #3 Grajales, #7 English and #2 seeded Dardanes.  Finally, this past season he entered the tournament with 6 losses(5 in B1G), 3 to #2 Sorenson, 1 to # 1 Retherford and 1 to Tsirtsis.

 

If this guy doesn't qualify as one of the best regular season wrestlers to not AA, I would love to see a list that puts a majority of non AA's(that obviously had 4 very successful regular seasons) ahead of him!!!


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Posted 25 March 2016 - 04:01 AM

MSU158, I'm sure that Tigsy feels slighted that a Penn State wrestler wasn't mentioned.


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Posted 25 March 2016 - 06:32 AM

Jake lost to the runner-up Sorenson this year in TB-2.  He wins the OT match and he goes into the semis and guaranteed AA. So close. 



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Posted 25 March 2016 - 01:53 PM

His headlock and stick of Andrew Alton was one moment that I enjoyed.
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Posted 25 March 2016 - 03:03 PM

Just short of the top 8.

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 05:25 PM

He's that guy no one wanted to wrestle.
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Posted 27 March 2016 - 06:38 AM

Definitely up there.  Top 10 guy for all four years and never made the podium.  I thought this was year to finally get over the hump


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