Billyhoyle 2,489 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Hasn't Molinaro had recent success at international tournamnets? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repechange 184 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 65 kg still has to get qualified right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 65 kg still has to get qualified right?Yup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Well, I'd say someone who beats Metcalf, Steiber and (hypothetically) Pico in one day has proven to be pretty good. This isn't figure skating, where the judges pick. 4 wpialchamp, OBJoeB, CoachWrestling and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crablegs 39 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Then why allow anyone below the 3 or 4 seed to enter the tournament. Silly. They wrestle this tournament for a reason.They probably shouldn't have 1 event decide the team member. It can lead to the wrong guy representing us. If Penn State or Iowa has a competitive weight in the room(like PSU 165 this year), would Cael or Brands pic the guy to wrestle at NCAAs off of 1 wrestle off. No the wouldn't and they don't because it's a dumb way to decide. They enter multiple tournaments, duals, and wrestle offs and make a decision who they think will do best. That said I think it's all moot because Pico will win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crablegs 39 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Well, I'd say someone who beats Metcalf, Steiber and (hypothetically) Pico in one day has proven to be pretty good. This isn't figure skating, where the judges pick. How many times do you think Molinaro makes the finals if they wrestled this tournament 10 times? Be honest. 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Molinaro is a new man today. I wouldn't place a bet or take a bet on the finals. My heart is with Pico though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 He got no favors from the draw. I thought Steiber would win, so in my estimation he beat the champ at home (Metcalf), then the guy I thought would win. Again, if he knocks off Pico if say he had the toughest path you could take. 2 nom and wpialchamp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 How many times do you think Molinaro makes the finals if they wrestled this tournament 10 times? Be honest. Same for Pico. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,040 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Hard to hate on what he's done today, even if my guy was on the losing end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 I don't understand why anyone would step in and make a decision in one of our weakest weights that hasn't even been qualified. Molinaro or Pico or for that matter anyone else in the mix seems just as good as anyone else. Since everyone was healthy, since every match so far was won without any drama or protest, since everyone made weight, since everyone got through injury free, I don't think there's much of an argument for intervention. 3 nom, wpialchamp and broyles_152 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjm46 83 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Didn't say that, but don't think we should send the 5th best guy at the weight either because he had one good tournament. Worked out pretty well when we sent Slay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nom 1,208 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Hey, if you can beat Metcalf, Stieber and Pico all in one day ... you've earned the berth. 1 wpialchamp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,188 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) How many times do you think Molinaro makes the finals if they wrestled this tournament 10 times? Be honest. I think today is that 1 in 10 or at most 3 in 10 day. Whatever...congrats to the tank. Edited April 9, 2016 by Coach_J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Good evidence of Cael's strong coaching. Metcalf used to destroy Molinaro. Good point. Cael has now taken both Gomez and Molinaro to wins over Brent, who has lost to no other American, in years. Cael may have done us a favor, by having his guy knock Brent out of the tournament, and open it up for someone who may be able to get a world medal (Olympic in this case). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broyles_152 15 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Do I think Molinaro is the absolute best guy to send? Based on his past probably not, but TODAY he has beaten 3 opponents who collectively won 8 NCAA titles to his 1. The name of the game is win the OTT and you make the team and so far he has done what he needs to do. If you can beat Metcalf and Stieber in the same day then you're doing something right. 1 Axe_Spartan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gromit 497 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Worked out pretty well when we sent Slay. I was thinking the exact same thing...few predicted anything out of him when he won the trials over Joe Williams & Dolph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wpialchamp 37 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 This is silly. Although I hate his style and think he has zero chance to ever medal with it, if he wins tonight he absolutely deserves to represent us in the Olympics if we qualify the weight. Any argument otherwise goes against the very core of our sport and that is that the winner is determined on the mat. Interesting question is who do we now send to try and qualify the weight? 1 nom reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OKnowwhut 59 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Now I hope we send Stieber to try and qualify the weight. 1 wpialchamp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUNatChamps 17 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Those wins over Metcalf and Stieber were very tough. Didn't think Frank was going to win either, but he did what he had to do to get the victory. Hope he takes one over Pico tonight and erases any doubt whether he deserves it or not. No matter the outcome, he's done more today than most would have predicted. Freestyle is a different ballgame than folkstyle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crablegs 39 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Interesting question is who do we now send to try and qualify the weight?That is not an interesting question. You send the guy who won the trials. You just argued that the winner of the trials no doubt deserves to go. Why would anyone else even be considered to qualify the weight? If they are the best to represent us at Olympics, they are best to qualify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maolsen 94 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) That is not an interesting question. You send the guy who won the trials. You just argued that the winner of the trials no doubt deserves to go. Why would anyone else even be considered to qualify the weight? If they are the best to represent us at Olympics, they are best to qualify. Send him to one of the last qualifiers. If he doesn't qualify then you send either Pico or Stieber. Edited April 9, 2016 by maolsen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,032 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Molinaro hasn't outscored a single opponent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 Molinaro hasn't outscored a single opponent. I thought he pasted Russell pretty good but I may have been mistaken. I know he launched some body pretty good, perhaps I confused the bout. Admittedly I was focused on Pico most of the event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIW-HS 15 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 I thought he pasted Russell pretty good but I may have been mistaken. I know he launched some body pretty good, perhaps I confused the bout. Admittedly I was focused on Pico most of the event. Tank beat Russell 14-1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
