broyles_152 15 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 What do you guys think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlw028 106 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 I think he is done wrestling and moving towards MMA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 379 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 I saw a tweet from him, saying he will be back wrestling next year. Not sure what weight though. But obviously he could change his mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinnum 846 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 I thought he looked good technically but looked like he wasn't conditioned well. I would really like to see him return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grecojones 206 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 Heard a rumor he wasn't "right" for the OTT... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckxell 145 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Heard a rumor he wasn't "right" for the OTT... What does that mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grecojones 206 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 What does that mean? On Flow radio they said there were credible rumors going around that he was battling injury. What we saw apparently was not JO @ 100% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckxell 145 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 On Flow radio they said there were credible rumors going around that he was battling injury. What we saw apparently was not JO @ 100% Didn't know that, thanks. He looked good to me against Pico until he faded... Maybe an injury prohibited him from training enough? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CA_Wrestler 336 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Nobody was 100% for the OTT. You can say that for any tournament. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grecojones 206 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Nobody was 100% for the OTT. You can say that for any tournament. There are degrees... If he was banged up that's one thing. If he was battling through an injury that's different. It's an observation not an excuse. And if it's an accurate observation it would support the idea that he could perform better and would likely come back for another go next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Right, look at Humphrey, he was clearly injured. Pico got a free pass to the finals against a guy that destroyed him last time they met. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 529 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Right, look at Humphrey, he was clearly injured. Pico got a free pass to the finals against a guy that destroyed him last time they met. I'm as big a Hump fan as there is, but he's always a shell of himself coming back within 90 minutes of a war. He was hurt, but I think Pico would have beaten him in those same circumstances 8 times out of 10, even if his ankle was ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry_Fish 313 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 There are degrees... If he was banged up that's one thing. If he was battling through an injury that's different. It's an observation not an excuse. And if it's an accurate observation it would support the idea that he could perform better and would likely come back for another go next year. Have the following from what I consider to be a very reliable source on JO info: 1. The Pico match was his first live action in 3 months as he had been nursing a serious shoulder injury. This affected his wind and strength 2. He did not go public with the info b/c he understands that staying healthy is part of being a great/successful wrestler. They are not just measured on how well they can perform when at their peak. 3. He also knows that talking about it now makes it look like he is making excuses. So he sees no point in talking much about it. The rest is my opinion, not from a source.... 1. JO makes no secret about his dislike for traveling overseas to compete. He has enough talent to enjoy some amount of success with limited international travel, but ultimately his reluctance to compete overseas lowers his ceiling. 2. JO makes no secret that he wants to get in the cage someday. But he also said he plans to wrestle next year. This supports the idea that he wants at least one more healthy run at a World team before going in the ring full time. 3. Even when he goes MMA, I won't be at all surprised to see him still show up at The US Open and WTTs to compete. While he trains exponentially harder than any of us on this board, I tend to believe in the theory that he does not train at the level of guys like Metcalf, Ramos, Dake, etc.. He relies more on talent and less on training than the other top guys. This being the case, the notion of him competing at future US Open's/WTTs without being fully dedicated to wrestling is not far-fetched IMO. 4. We would have a better shot at getting 65KG qualified and winning a medal overseas if JO won OTTs than FM. But I would say the same thing about a lot of the guys at 65KG. But I'm still pulling for Frank as hard as a I can now that he earned the spot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites