scribe 1,655 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Is it too late to just give our team spot to David Habat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 595 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) The finals will get him more top level international experience. That can only help come August. Edited April 24, 2016 by KCMO2 1 Billyhoyle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie 723 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 The finals will get him more top level international experience. That can only help come August. Unless he gets injured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
straggler 65 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Not sure what the overall value of Cox wrestling the finals is, but then again he could get injured anytime in training. Rio is is August. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,987 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 The most impressive thing about today from my view wasn't the result...It's what he's showing of his skillset in the matches. J'den is just so comfortable in essentially every position he is put into and seems to find ways to wrestle through/out of them. When he needs points, he puts together multiple attacks and can get to the single leg. And physically, he's the first guy we have had in a while who won't be overmatched by the top guys at the weight. I'm not saying he is near the level of Sadulaev yet, but he looks like a natural freestyler...Definitely a chance to medal with the right draw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 595 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Unless he gets injured. There's always the chance of getting injured, but that shouldn't keep him off the mat. And as far as I know, he's never been injured in high school or college. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Cox is looking really good at this tournament. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 that finish sucks for tomar wow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 I just want you guys to really think about J'den. Personally I think he could be the Michael Jordan of the sport. What you guys are seeing is just the tip of the iceberg. What type of odds are you giving if he meets Sadulaev? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 BS. He got hosed. Gor never took a shot, it was bs that they put Frank on the clock, then the "push out" was bs, and then the "takedown"on top of THAT was bs. Also, Frank had a push out just before his final take down that the ref ALSO didn't award. He got robbed, straight up. If you believe all that, you need to take a refresher course on freestyle scoring. We all wanted Frank to win, out he lost. He got out wrestled, plain and simple. Next time you're at the kids wrestling class, ask about the scoring rules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matness 20 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Karimi teched the guy cox just beat 11-0 at worlds so let's not get carried away Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,987 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 What type of odds are you giving if he meets Sadulaev? Michael Jordan didn't win a championship until he was 28, so he won't give you good odds for 7 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 cox today looked great. He is by no means a medal threat level guy yet, but maybe that can change come rio, i like his chances to maybe sneak in a bronze. unfortunetly the P4P best is at his weight Right now so gold will be out of the question till 2017 when saduallaev moves up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,987 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Karimi teched the guy cox just beat 11-0 at worlds so let's not get carried away He's the underdog for sure against any of the medalists, but everyone other than Sadulaev is beatable. The Ref really impacted this match....If UZB had been put on the clock as he should have been, he may have had to open up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Haven't all of our FS Olympians competed at NCAA institutions? Henry Cejudo did not compete once he got to college. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Holy **** he looks good. Does anybody think that anybody else we had would be doing this well? And conserving energy not wrestling too long I can see Taylor with this type of a run. 86 kg is just so weak domestically, Cox absolutely stands out, head and shoulders in the international scene, relative to what our other guys can do. Perry is another one who stands out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Michael Jordan didn't win a championship until he was 28, so he won't give you good odds for 7 years. Michael Jordan won a championship when he was a frosh at NC. He had to be about 20 years of age. That said, I'll set a reminder to revisit this in 2023 1 BigTimeFan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,987 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Michael Jordan won a championship when he was a frosh at NC. He had to be about 20 years of age. That said, I'll set a reminder to revisit this in 2023 Cox won an NCAA title his true freshman year, just like Mike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 to be fair cox won a title as a freshman too 2 Billyhoyle and Crotalus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiMaria 8 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Is it too late to just give our team spot to David Habat? Or Boris Novachkov? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 359 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Well I think Frank was a little too cautious early on. The Turk did not really do much offensively, hopefully Frank learns from this and wrestles with a little more dominance here in a couple of weeks. As far as Cox was concerned, he looked really smooth. ( Not counting his finals match which as I type this hasn't happened yet ), but I was impressed with his performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Cox won an NCAA title his true freshman year, just like Mike. So we agree Michael Jordan did not wait until he was 28 to win a championship? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 novachkov v gor will be a great match. this weight class needs another 10 spots, so many great guys wont be going to rio, what a shame. no other weight is half as deep as 65. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grecojones 81 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Boris goes down to the Turk. 4-2. Could not get his offense going. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripNSweep 465 Report post Posted April 24, 2016 Ivanov goes down 12-1 in the finals at 74. But still is going to Rio anyway. Kind of funny how both he and Boris wrestled in college here. 1 gutfirst reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
