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Turkey Olympic Qualifier: Day 1 (Greco) draw and discussion

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Rau beat Mejia 6-0 at the Pan Am qualifier before he was pinned in the semi's by Cuba to force us to qualify 98 through the world events.  

 

Tough way to go out.  We're officially down at least one weight for the Olympics.

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Perkins just didn't seem to have the same edge as in Mongolia today, right from the start.  Even in his wins, I didn't think he looked as sharp or as physical as he did in the last qualifier.  I think if he had wrestled as well today as he did in Mongolia, he would have beaten Greece and Kyrgyzstan with ease and would be favored in the semi-finals.  Bummer

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Could anyone figure out what they were challenging? Didn't look like it was close to a leg foul.

They always challenge if they've lost the match on the last move at the end of time or by pin if they haven't used their challenge yet...they have nothing to lose and if the refs would happen to find some reason to reverse they are back in the match.

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no disrespect to any of our guys putting it on the line, but has this ever happened before?

 

possible 4 men's weights not being qualified? kind of embarrassing. 

This system has only been in place for 2 cycles.  

 

It's an extremely selective qualification process now.  To put it in perspective, we're one of only 5 nations with at least 12 of 18 weights qualified coming into this weekend.  Even Russia only has 15 as the world leader.

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What should be a positive...the Moldovan, Islamov, takes out the Turk in the other quarterfinal so there will be no hometown advantage in Thielke's semi.  The Moldovan is a former university world champ and got the bronze at the European championships this year.  He was beaten in the European qualifier by the Russian when he had to get to final to qualify the weight.  His backup wrestled in Mongolia and also failed to qualify the nation.  He'll be very tough, but it was a 4-4 match against the Turk and I'd certainly prefer not to be facing the home nation in the match to go to the Olympics.  Any weirdness would most certainly go against us.

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This system has only been in place for 2 cycles.  

 

It's an extremely selective qualification process now.  To put it in perspective, we're one of only 5 nations with at least 12 of 18 weights qualified coming into this weekend.  Even Russia only has 15 as the world leader.

 

didn't realize that, would it be women's wts not qualified for Russia? 

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didn't realize that, would it be women's wts not qualified for Russia? 

Yes, but they've usually been a clear top 10 women's nation and they've only got 3 of 6 through (and last cycle, even they missed out on a Greco weight).  Turkey, for example, has finished 3rd, 7th, 2nd, and 7th at the last 4 Greco world championships and only came into this weekend with 1 of 6 weights qualified.  They've dropped 2 of those 5 non-qualified weights before the semi's.  

 

These events are killer.  It's only 19 entrants that qualify for the Olympics per weight and several of those are set up to go to fringe nations.  So it's really a fight to be sure you're one of about 15 in the wild random draw system they use at each event.  We had some draws and tossup matches go in our favor last cycle that have not gone our way at all this cycle, unfortunately.

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The Kyrgyz that beat Perkins just took out a Moldovan to advance to the Olympics in 46 seconds...super, super disappointing for Perkins, whose common opponent scores from the past few weeks all suggest he's better than the Kyrgyz.  

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They always challenge if they've lost the match on the last move at the end of time or by pin if they haven't used their challenge yet...they have nothing to lose and if the refs would happen to find some reason to reverse they are back in the match.

 

That's what I was thinking but wondered if more than that. And I believe they would still have to make a specific challenge on something other than the pin itself.

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random draw strikes again.

Not as much in this case.  The Chinese that Perkins rocked is better than the Kyrgyz and he beat him with no problem.  Also, the best guy at the weight is a former world champ from Azerbaijan in the other half that Perkins avoided altogether.  He's only there because of a teammate missing weight last week in Azerbaijan's last attempt to qualify the weight.  He would have been a clear favorite against Perkins.

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