CTMopar 17 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 Hint...The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammen 340 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 The University should fire Robinson and dismiss the entire staff and get rid of any wrestler that may be involved in any way. Clean house completely. Tough luck if some kids get felony records - their actions earned them. You're not an Iowa fan, are you? Just wondering about the felony record statement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 If Robinson did tall the cops he would not work with them he should be nailed to a cross after being fired. He is impeding law enforcement and reinforcing the kids idea that they are above the law. They are drug dealers and probably drug users as well. They are gaming the system and their coach is worse than they are. The University should fire Robinson and dismiss the entire staff and get rid of any wrestler that may be involved in any way. Clean house completely. Tough luck if some kids get felony records - their actions earned them. While the above is all true, I'm standing with JRob. Some things are more important than the law. I'm glad JRob chose to take the road he took and not the road of the law. Some times we have to look out for our own,. no matter what laws we have to break. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,429 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 Even after this story JRob looks significantly better than a lot of the posters in this thread (looking at you, Penn State fans). 2 KingK0ng and dtl38 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 563 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) While the above is all true, I'm standing with JRob. Some things are more important than the law. I'm glad JRob chose to take the road he took and not the road of the law. Some times we have to look out for our own,. no matter what laws we have to break.I'm right there with ya. And I also think we should continue to assault a man's character with little or no evidence only because he is on an opposing team. I also believe it's a good practice to believe anonymous accusers and their disgrunted parents that put them up to it, especially when they don't have the balls to bring it up face to face with the coach, only behind his back. I believe it is just perfectly OK to publicly identify kids by name that have not been charged with any crime I also believe that the best practice is to send these kids to prison as suggested as they do have a track record of 5% success rate. I also believe everything I read in the Washington Post and the Star Tribune as their main motivation is telling the total story not just their slant on it to sell newspapers. I also believe that a head coach should not be concerned with carnage on his team. All of this makes me a person of much higher character than the head coach and I really feel good about being able to trash his character on these forums. The man is guilty as charged, only thinking about himself and his career, future wins, NCAA finals and leaving his student athletes laying in his path to greatness. Guilty as charged Get a rope Edited July 1, 2016 by tbert 1 redblades reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoopdown 631 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 Even after this story JRob looks significantly better than a lot of the posters in this thread (looking at you, Penn State fans).In my circles, most PSU fans have been content to let the investgation play out and ensure JRob, who they respect for various reasons regardless of some competitive and directional differences, due process. It basically is seen as none of our business and better handled by people in the know. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I467 using Tapatalk 2 rstrong and headshuck reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pipewrench 73 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 Even after this story JRob looks significantly better than a lot of the posters in this thread (looking at you, Penn State fans). Love blanket statements....love them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,429 Report post Posted July 1, 2016 To note, I was referencing a few of the more well known Penn State fans on this board who probably make up ~25% of this topic. Not all Penn State fans as a whole ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cm_111 77 Report post Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) I have personally found that these attacks against opposing teams and other wrestlers is somewhat a new(er) thing. Obviously there has always been the occasional life failure who attempts to live through other people but, overall, wrestling, better stated, the wrestling community at large has been more family oriented than any of the other sports I played growing up. Even when I wrestled in college it was the same way and that included competition at Carver Hawkeye where the fans were loud but extremely fair and extremely knowledgeable. I thoroughly enjoyed going there as the fans appreciated several thing: great wrestling and hard nosed competition. Obviously they wanted their guy to win but if an opposing guy impressed them they would definitely let him know about in a positive way. Our fans were similar for the large part as well. Hell, that goes back to even elementary wrestling if memory serves. There was none of this ridiculous and utterly moronic attacking between fan bases going on and if there was it would have likely ended with both fan bases coming together to beating the utter and complete shiz out of the one causing the issue(s). I have no idea what has changed in such a short amount of time but, frankly, I find it unacceptable for our sport which is one of the more respectful sports to competition that there may be in current existence. I would constantly sit and BS with other wrestlers at tournaments, their families from time to time, and often times we would see each other at hotels or fans/fans of other teams and it was a great experience. Now? There definitely is a lot of animosity and I personally dislike it immensely as it does nothing but cause issues and serves absolutely zero purpose, none. Long story short - JRob deserves a chance for the facts to come out so prejudging him is pretty damn ridiculous and feeds into this new agenda driven BS of trying issues in the court of drama based articles or non factually inclusive material. Let's give the guy a chance. After all the years he dedicated to this sport and all the lives he has likely changed for the positive he deserves that much and this is coming from a guy who wants MN to lose every single match. He doesn't deserve the hate he is getting and will continue not to until/unless facts show he is responsible in an incontrovertible manner. Sorry for the rant, I just find some of this rhetoric a bit ridiculous when there are conflicting reports and the guy has given his life to the betterment of our sport. Edited July 2, 2016 by cm_111 6 Cletus_Tucker, tbert, headshuck and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 3,011 Report post Posted July 3, 2016 So as expected, the alleged letter from the daughter was BS. The week went by without the canning of JRob. 1 tbert reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted July 3, 2016 "Compete w Gilman and Tomasello" = 125 pounder "Set example for freshmen" = Soph or older "Dad flew out" = from the east coast Sounds like Ethan Lizak to me (125, Soph, PA) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'd imagine there's a lot of stress and anxiety that could surface when one is thrown to the wolves. Obviously, a JRob blunder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cm_111 77 Report post Posted July 3, 2016 I'd imagine there's a lot of stress and anxiety that could surface when one is thrown to the wolves. Obviously, a JRob blunder. They should be thrown to the wolves after what they did. I am actually most interested in who the whistle blower was and if he had anything to do with this issue and was just covering his ass. Reading his statements was very, how do I say this, suspicious to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 563 Report post Posted July 3, 2016 Well you can't pretty much bet he was a non starter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted July 5, 2016 I'm right there with ya. And I also think we should continue to assault a man's character with little or no evidence only because he is on an opposing team. I also believe it's a good practice to believe anonymous accusers and their disgrunted parents that put them up to it, especially when they don't have the balls to bring it up face to face with the coach, only behind his back. I believe it is just perfectly OK to publicly identify kids by name that have not been charged with any crime I also believe that the best practice is to send these kids to prison as suggested as they do have a track record of 5% success rate. I also believe everything I read in the Washington Post and the Star Tribune as their main motivation is telling the total story not just their slant on it to sell newspapers. I also believe that a head coach should not be concerned with carnage on his team. All of this makes me a person of much higher character than the head coach and I really feel good about being able to trash his character on these forums. The man is guilty as charged, only thinking about himself and his career, future wins, NCAA finals and leaving his student athletes laying in his path to greatness. Guilty as charged Get a rope tbert, whatever you need to sleep at night, have at it. I myself, choose to stand with JRob on this one. No amount of guilt effort, short of photos of him with a little boy, is going to change my mind. Bring all you got on the man, I've seen much worse at the local tavern, on two for one, Thursday ladies night. Lets see what you got. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 563 Report post Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) tbert, whatever you need to sleep at night, have at it. I myself, choose to stand with JRob on this one. No amount of guilt effort, short of photos of him with a little boy, is going to change my mind. Bring all you got on the man, I've seen much worse at the local tavern, on two for one, Thursday ladies night. Lets see what you got.lol. I can tell by all your support early on Edited July 5, 2016 by tbert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted July 8, 2016 Someone screw you over as a kid? You know the law and the rules. You see the results of this type of attitude incarcerated every day. Too many coaches and athletes think they are above the law. Clean house and start over. No one tainted by this should be left on campus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,429 Report post Posted July 8, 2016 Willie we all read your first five posts on the topic and you've added nothing new to your original point. It was nice seeing this topic disappear into obscurity where it belongs. If you really need to bring it back up just quote one of your old posts and save yourself a little time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,067 Report post Posted July 8, 2016 You know the law and the rules. You see the results of this type of attitude incarcerated every day. Too many coaches and athletes think they are above the law. Clean house and start over. No one tainted by this should be left on campus. https://youtu.be/WKjc8IfzzMM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 454 Report post Posted July 31, 2016 Holy cow! This thread is still going? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 What happened? I'm being told Eggum is taking over. Is JRob out? I was told this was all about nothing to do. I have no insight into the latest. What are the latest developments and why? My internet is down so I can't check it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,626 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 1) Unplug your router and check back here for step 2). 4 redblades, Husker_Du, PhiferFuqua and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 1) Unplug your router and check back here for step 2). It's working again! Thank you that did the trick. 3 HurricaneWrestling, Husker_Du and headshuck reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling 1,123 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 Glad that issue's been successfully resolved. I was thinking that the tin foil hat Rosie wears may have been interfering with your connection. Fortunately, headshuck deduced that it could be easily resolved by the unplugging of the router. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,597 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 If Terry Brands wanted an interview at Minnesota they'd have to hear him out, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,626 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 Jesse Ventura has been banging on the door for months and hasn't gotten an interview if that tells you anything. 1 GranbyTroll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites