AnklePicker 649 Report post Posted June 26, 2016 How many guys on the Olympic team wrestled at Fargo in high school? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,118 Report post Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) Dennis: Competed Molinaro: NO Burroughs: NO Cox: Junior Champ Snyder: Junior Champ (Greco); Cadet FS Champ. Dlagnev: Not certain, texted him to see if he did. Thielke: 2x Cadet Champ, didn't wrestle junior because he was on 4 Junior World Teams Bisek: 7th once in Greco Provisor: Cadet Champ, Junior 3rd Smith: Junior Champ Augello: 2x Junior Champ Maroulis: 2x Junior Champ Pirozhkova: 3x All-American Gray: 3x Junior Champ Edited June 26, 2016 by JasonBryant 3 GoNotQuietly, Buckxell and Husker_Du reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckeyebison 87 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Bisek 7th in Greco? How did he leap so high from 7th??? It has to be the mustache? If so, all Greco should grow mustaches!! Edited June 27, 2016 by Buckeyebison Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,118 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) He was bound for Minnesota State-Mankato after finishing 3rd as a senior in high school. Opted to go the Greco route at Northern Michigan with Ivan. How did he leap? Good coaching. Ivan is beast. Chandler too. Edited June 27, 2016 by JasonBryant 1 GoNotQuietly reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 1,229 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 Any update on Dlagnev? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grecojones 206 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 Dlagnev was my roommate in 2002. He did not place that year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnorsDad 596 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Dennis: Competed Molinaro: NO Burroughs: NO Cox: Junior Champ Snyder: Junior Champ (Greco); Cadet FS Champ. Dlagnev: Not certain, texted him to see if he did. Thielke: 2x Cadet Champ, didn't wrestle junior because he was on 4 Junior World Teams Bisek: 7th once in Greco Provisor: Cadet Champ, Junior 3rd Smith: Junior Champ Augello: 2x Junior Champ Maroulis: 2x Junior Champ Pirozhkova: 3x All-American Gray: 3x Junior Champ Why would somebody as accomplished as Molinaro in high school not go to Fargo? In fact, why are so many of the top wrestlers in the country not attending Fargo? I don't seem to remember Suriano going, Nevils, etc.. Just wondering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Why would somebody as accomplished as Molinaro in high school not go to Fargo? In fact, why are so many of the top wrestlers in the country not attending Fargo? I don't seem to remember Suriano going, Nevils, etc.. Just wondering. Different approaches to training, cost, other commitments, etc. Just for the kids I've coached and know that would have been competitive in Fargo. It's not cheap to fly across the country, and stay for a while, for a wrestling tourney. Especially if you're in an area that has built in quality competition. From OH to NY, you can drive an hour in any direction and find quality clubs and tourneys to challenge yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 if your style is based on stalling out the first period on your feet, getting an escape point, and then riding tough on top and hoping for a 1-0 win, fargo is not the place for you... 1 gutfirst reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 It's often funny to hear people with no experience in a given topic pontificating about said topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 hell hath no about no fury like a small minded dude from jersey scorned... or is it a woman? not much difference either way... 1 Grecojones reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmDrag14 64 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) SHUTUP LJB Edited June 28, 2016 by ArmDrag14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 you really should have bolded that and kicked up the font size... maybe even an exclamation point or two... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmDrag14 64 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Nah just playin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,118 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Why would somebody as accomplished as Molinaro in high school not go to Fargo? In fact, why are so many of the top wrestlers in the country not attending Fargo? I don't seem to remember Suriano going, Nevils, etc.. Just wondering. Some guys didn't do the freestyle until they get into college. Burroughs wrestled some freestyle, but the way I understand it, didn't have all the financial means to go. I don't know about the statement about "so many" considering if you look at the Division I stats of All-Americans and their participation in Fargo (or where it used to be) 74.83% of D1 AA's competed in Fargo during their HS career (2006-2015). If you go back to 1994, 63.22% of D1 All-Americans placed in Fargo (or wherever it was prior). Champs-wise, from 1994-2015, 79.57% of the NCAA champions from 1994-2015 were Fargo place winners. With records not online prior to 2006, I started tracking the participation vs. All-American numbers for those who competed, placed, didn't compete or were ineligible (foreign athletes). That's where these percentages come from. Edited June 28, 2016 by JasonBryant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 you have to consider that many high school kids are scared of wrestling free and absolutely mortified of greco... lots of their coaches are scared to death as well... some actively dissuade them from participating... that fear is born of ignorance... they try one season... take some losses to some kids they wreck in the meathead style... and decide they "don't like" free/greco when the actual reason is they are too scared to take losses and and better themselves in the real styles of wrestling... it is shameful... 1 gutfirst reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 you have to consider that many high school kids are scared of wrestling free and absolutely mortified of greco... lots of their coaches are scared to death as well... some actively dissuade them from participating... that fear is born of ignorance... they try one season... take some losses to some kids they wreck in the meathead style... and decide they "don't like" free/greco when the actual reason is they are too scared to take losses and and better themselves in the real styles of wrestling... it is shameful... Can you cite any examples? I'd guess less than 1% of American HS wrestlers ever wrestle a single greco match. It's because they're scared? Talk about ignorance, lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 come on jersey, give it up... you know your made up number is just that... you are incredibly ignorant of anything greco and are scared to death of anything outside of your norm... look outside every once in a while... BTW, i do like the chik move of blocking the PM's yet sending them out... nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Lol, do you change diapers in between matches? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,118 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Can you cite any examples? I'd guess less than 1% of American HS wrestlers ever wrestle a single greco match. It's because they're scared? Talk about ignorance, lol. Well, in 2014-15, the NFHS published there were 258,208 male H.S. wrestlers. There were 1,808 Greco-Roman entries in Fargo with athletes of H.S. age (Cadet & Junior). Fargo itself accounts for 7/10ths of that 1% you're guessing. We know by simple numbers that not every wrestler who competes in a state qualifying tournament to go to Cadet & Junior Nationals actually goes, so if you simply doubled the entries, you'd eclipse the one percent pretty easily. Less than 1% of American H.S. wrestlers actually competed in Greco in Fargo last year. The number who wrestled at the state level to try to qualify would easily push that number well over 1%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 don't try to use actual real live facts and numbers with a zealot... their minds are already made up and they refuse to seek any further knowledge once they have arrived at whatever conclusion they want to... "Typical New Jersey" 1 Grecojones reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gutfirst 220 Report post Posted June 30, 2016 Can you cite any examples? I'd guess less than 1% of American HS wrestlers ever wrestle a single greco match. It's because they're scared? Talk about ignorance, lol. yes, it's because of fear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gutfirst 220 Report post Posted June 30, 2016 pretty sure molinaro and burroughs never went to any nj free or greco tournaments in high school. i didn't miss any while they were in high school. it's reasonable that going to fargo was never of any interest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gutfirst 220 Report post Posted June 30, 2016 Different approaches to training, cost, other commitments, etc. Just for the kids I've coached and know that would have been competitive in Fargo. It's not cheap to fly across the country, and stay for a while, for a wrestling tourney. Especially if you're in an area that has built in quality competition. From OH to NY, you can drive an hour in any direction and find quality clubs and tourneys to challenge yourself. there is no high school tournament that will challenge a high school wrestler more than fargo. the wrestlers that go both styles face the greatest test a high school wrestler can face. anything thing else they do pales in comparison. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuckFor2 216 Report post Posted June 30, 2016 if your style is based on stalling out the first period on your feet, getting an escape point, and then riding tough on top and hoping for a 1-0 win, fargo is not the place for you...DF? Sent from my SM-T230NU using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
