Russia is out @ 57KG

[smcfee 76]

 

Man if I would have known I could have been on the juice for 4 years and still not be held accountable for it I could have made a heck of a Olympic run in badminton.

I pictured you more as a table tennis type....

 

Test everyone before competition starts, and again before medal matches....

[IronChef 661]

Best as I can tell, Lebedev is currently waiting for the Court of Arbitration for Sport to rule on his appeal. Several other athletes who had served previous doping suspensions have had their bans overturned. This has resulted in Russian language media reporting that he will compete, even though it seems like that has not been made official. The link below has some quotes from the head of the Russian wrestling team.

 

http://yakutiamedia.ru/news/sport/05.08.2016/523094/mihail-mamiashvili-viktor-lebedev-v-zayavke-sbornoy-rf-on-treniruetsya-i-zhdet-resh.html (in Chrome, you can right click and select Translate to English)

[IronChef 661]

Here is another article where Mamiashvilil says that Lebedev will travel to Rio tomorrow, but that they are still awaiting official word on his entry

 

https://www.gazeta.ru/sport/rio2016/news/2016/08/05/n_8962559.shtml

[MadMardigain 1,198]

I pictured you more as a table tennis type....

 

Test everyone before competition starts, and again before medal matches....

Most people are smart enough to cycle off of their chosen banned substance around month out from competition to ensure they don't get caught. So testing them just prior probably wouldn't catch many, yet the juicing advantage would have already done its job.

 

They already test medalist after competition, and I believe they also have a random testing pool as well during the games.

[wrestlingnerd 2,579]

The only way to do it with a decent probability of catching cheaters is random and frequent year-round testing. That is cost-prohibitive so it won't happen. Knowing when, or roughly when, you will be tested is the key reason why it's possible to clean house and cheat the system.

 

You could have a strictly enforced system testing any other way and it would still be deficient and, with the proper resources, not hard to cheat.

[smcfee 76]

thanks guys-not being a doper, I didn't know much about the life of the stuff in your system, just that some stayed longer than others.  How on earth do so many people get caught in other sports?  Stronger testing program, more randomness, ???

[wrestlingnerd 2,579]

Usually people get caught because they didn't know exactly when they were going to be tested (majority of cases), they didn't know exactly what they were going to be tested for, or they got sloppy and didn't follow all the necessary precautions to mask or clean out the banned substance from their system.

 

The case where an athlete with the "right" doctors/chemists and enough money knows what he needs to prepare for, and when, but still gets caught is quite rare.

Edited August 5, 2016 by wrestlingnerd

[Jaroslav Hasek 1,831]

Lebedev sucks imo

[lu_alum 670]

Lebedev just might slip back in. Precedent being set with a swimmer in a similar situation. Looks like it could be thrown back into UWW's lap. Not sure if UWW's hearing last week is the equivalent of CAS's toss back to FINA. Did FINA have a hearing after the IOC ruling?

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-rio-russia-swimming-cas-excl-idUSKCN10F2QE

 

 

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Edited August 6, 2016 by lu_alum

[Billyhoyle 1,947]

Here's my question:  If Lebedev is ruled out of the olympics, do the refs have to give back the bribe money?

[manyak 184]

As hard is it is to root for him, his positive test occurred when he was a teenager, 10 years ago. It isn't a good reason to keep him out.

[Coach_J 2,025]

As hard is it is to root for him, his positive test occurred when he was a teenager, 10 years ago. It isn't a good reason to keep him out.

[Coach_J 2,025]

Agree a decade old dirty test is no reason to ban an athlete, but it would have been poetic justice for his recent robbery "wins" over Bonne, Musukaev, and Bogomoev.

[Hubbard 426]

He has been given the green light and will compete.

[Coach_J 2,025]

I sincerely hope he gets nowhere near the medal stand and is preferably one and done.

[Jaroslav Hasek 1,831]

the IOC rule was cowardly BS so whatever. now I hope Lebedev gets annihilated in his 1st match. 

[wrestlingnerd 2,579]

The irony of all this is that Lebedev will do well and is a legit threat to win it all, making a mockery of the IOC and the UWW in the process.

[WRfan1 142]

No surprise here, dictator Putin runs the IOC. 

[Axe_Spartan 197]

I'm happy for the 57kg category that he is in, a wrestling weight without Russia is not complete.