boconnell 1,632 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Lol! Where in that match do you think it came down to strength? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 He can become the first U.S. wrestler to win consecutive Olympic gold medals since John Smith in 1992. Burroughs also has three World Championships, one shy of Smith's record. If he adds gold to his resume here? "You could consider me the best wrestler of all time if I win," he said without a trace of braggadocio. "You could." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,632 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 I disagree with what you're saying. JB looked for attacks in the first 5 minutes, Geduev was in perfect position and stopped him before it could even look like an attack. Then why did he get in repeatedly as soon as he turned up the pace? As soon as JB was forced into a sense of urgency he was all over Geduev's legs for the rest of the match. Before that he danced around the outside, broke all the ties, and barely level changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,626 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 We got it Willie, stop rubbing salt into the wound. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLONYC13 9 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Of course eh lost to a better guy. Since... He lost. He wrestled like crap all day. Was not ready. That was a C- version of JB we saw today. All day? It was his second match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) We got it Willie, stop rubbing salt into the wound. There is no salt. Just reality. He better hope the guy who beat him keeps going or he is out of it completely. Maybe this will turn out to be positive like Gable losing to Owings was? Edited August 19, 2016 by WillieBoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 436 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) He can become the first U.S. wrestler to win consecutive Olympic gold medals since John Smith in 1992. Burroughs also has three World Championships, one shy of Smith's record. If he adds gold to his resume here? "You could consider me the best wrestler of all time if I win," he said without a trace of braggadocio. "You could." That's a true statement. What are you going on about? Edited August 19, 2016 by CoachWrestling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-nigs23 90 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 He can become the first U.S. wrestler to win consecutive Olympic gold medals since John Smith in 1992. Burroughs also has three World Championships, one shy of Smith's record. If he adds gold to his resume here? "You could consider me the best wrestler of all time if I win," he said without a trace of braggadocio. "You could." So your just gonna start bashing him now that he lost? I agree the better man won TBar but when your trying to move a giant muscle that would wear on everyone but the very best conditioned athletes. Geduev vs yazdani should be a good one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,188 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Is it just a coincidence that the two most media hyped wrestlers (Gray and JB) took early exits? 1 Jasonmitchell32 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 3,011 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Is it just a coincidence that the two most media hyped wrestlers (Gray and JB) took early exits? Can't ignore that as a possible factor. But JB is not done yet so it's not technically an exit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,632 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 I doubt hype had anything to do with it. JB was pretty hyped going into 2012 and he handled it great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,500 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Is it just a coincidence that the two most media hyped wrestlers (Gray and JB) took early exits? Yes, I think it is a coincidence. This is the olympics. Upsets like these happen every single time. Think about Kudkhov 4 years ago. Or Varner somehow coming out of 97kg. Yoshida losing yesterday. Crazy things happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smedley 467 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Is it just a coincidence that the two most media hyped wrestlers (Gray and JB) took early exits? Maybe. Something to consider is that overall the United States is not good in wrestling compared to the rest of the planet. Maybe having our outliers who tend to perform very well lose in the Olympics will give USA Wrestling a kick in the butt. Time to consider a fresh approach to coaching and training, and dare I say adopting freestyle in the college system? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 436 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Maybe. Something to consider is that overall the United States is not good in wrestling compared to the rest of the planet. Maybe having our outliers who tend to perform very well lose in the Olympics will give USA Wrestling a kick in the butt. Time to consider a fresh approach to coaching and training, and dare I say adopting freestyle in the college system? It's never going to happen, not even worth talking about. We'd have 5% of the coaches we have now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smedley 467 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 I doubt hype had anything to do with it. JB was pretty hyped going into 2012 and he handled it great.He was also single and had no kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illifornia 21 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Its not easy to beat some guy with fricking Horse Steroids rushing through his veins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whyme25 54 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Another disappointing Olympic showing by the US mens team. Insanity = doing the same thing and expecting different results. Until something changes nothing will change. Congratulations to JB on an awesome career, he just didn't have enough today 1 Billyhoyle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smedley 467 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 It's never going to happen, not even worth talking about. We'd have 5% of the coaches we have now. That's fine. We will continue to win about 3 to 4 medals total in the Olympics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhsalum 43 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Is it just a coincidence that the two most media hyped wrestlers (Gray and JB) took early exits? Stop it. That's ridiculous. He lost. Not because of his mouth, but because of his performance. He was saying the same things in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. I will be interested to hear if something is/was wrong with him. Injury-wise. In his first match he just didn't look right after the first period. Either way, he didn't have the gas tank we are accustomed to seeing. and I don't mean that, Iowa-style. Iranian style gas tank. I mean the, rope-a-dope, here comes the scramble and 7 shots in a row gas tank. That he didn't fire off at the end of the 1st period says a lot. He was biding his time. He DEFINITELY got too strategic, and I don't know if he didn't FEEL like he could fire off in the first, or was just content that Geduev would be the one put on the clock in the second. When he had the intent of scoring, he was 1-for-2. He's always said he's fine with the missed opportunities because he has the gas tank to create another one. I am utterly depressed. Can't believe I saw that happen. Just my two cents, I hope he goes back to the lab. It's clear, that when he wants to score he can, but those flurries are taking more out of him than in his younger days. I hope he develops a score from a controlled tie. He's always been smart enough to evolve. I think he would be phenomenal with an "Iranian" underhook series. Guess we'll have to wait and see. 2 xander and GranbyTroll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simple 301 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Russian getting dominated early... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 436 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Geduev is losing 4-0, wow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Spartan 205 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 Yazdani just destroyed the Kaz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 436 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 That's fine. We will continue to win about 3 to 4 medals total in the Olympics. Yes, we more than likely will. Although I think our youth freestyle training is much better than it ever was. 1 Jasonmitchell32 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smedley 467 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 I think JB should turn over his Twitter handle to Icho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,632 Report post Posted August 19, 2016 So all the excuses that Gedeuv is just too strong to do anything to look silly now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
