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#101 Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:52 AM

Wrestling is not popular in Russia as a whole.

 

Wrestling is popular in a few republics, mostly in the Caucasus region and Siberia. Wrestling in Russia is practiced by almost no ethnic Russians, but instead by minority ethnic groups, some of whom don't identify as Russian at all.

Russians are bad in wreslting (if we dont talk about Yarygin and Karelin), they love ice hockey, drink alcohol and say **** about America but love Trump. Caucasus people (Dagestani, Chechens etc) love sport (combat sports) and Mongolian people who live in Sibiria (Tuva etc)


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#102 wrestlingnerd

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:59 AM

Russians are bad in wreslting (if we dont talk about Yarygin and Karelin),


Beloglazovs, etc.

Why is this? Where is sambo popular? My understanding is there's not as much overlap as you'd expect between where sambo is popular and where wrestling is popular.

#103 Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:20 AM

Beloglazovs, etc.

Why is this? Where is sambo popular? My understanding is there's not as much overlap as you'd expect between where sambo is popular and where wrestling is popular.

okay + Beloglazovs thats all....sambo like American football....Americans made American football because were bad in soccer and wanna be number one in American football, Russians made Sambo because were bad in Judo (but now Russia is nice in Judo, look Rio and London Olympics)


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#104 wrestlingnerd

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:49 AM

My point is you'd expect regions where one grappling sport is popular to also be strong in the other sport, but the overlap isn't as big as you'd expect. Same thing with judo, for that matter. Even Putin is good at judo.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:45 AM

I doubt wrestling is the top sport anywhere except maybe some African countries which I do not know much about. Even in Iran it is dwarfed by football and even volleyball has bigger stars. 

 

I believe some African countries can legit fill large stadiums with wrestling and the guys make good money, but they wrestle their own style and not FS/GR. 

 

In fact these wrestling events you see in Iran (world cup, world team trials,etc) have completely free admission and most of the time they still can't fill the stands. 


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:06 PM

I doubt wrestling is the top sport anywhere except maybe some African countries which I do not know much about. Even in Iran it is dwarfed by football and even volleyball has bigger stars.

I believe some African countries can legit fill large stadiums with wrestling and the guys make good money, but they wrestle their own style and not FS/GR.

In fact these wrestling events you see in Iran (world cup, world team trials,etc) have completely free admission and most of the time they still can't fill the stands.

Senegal is one of the African countries that has a huge wresting following but it's their own type of wrestling though.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:21 AM

Russians are bad in wreslting (if we dont talk about Yarygin and Karelin), they love ice hockey, drink alcohol and say **** about America but love Trump. Caucasus people (Dagestani, Chechens etc) love sport (combat sports) and Mongolian people who live in Sibiria (Tuva etc)

Gelogaev = bad? 



#108 Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:28 AM

Gelogaev = bad? 

i don't know who is it....American??? 


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:55 AM

i don't know who is it....American??? 

 

Gelogaev is a freestyler from Russia who placed very high at Russian nationals (3rd 2006).   Folkstyle may have been a little tougher for him.  In his defense, he had the nations best wrestler in his weight class, Jake Varner.  

 

http://www.okstate.c...aspx?rp_id=1753



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:39 PM

Since he is a good wrestler, Gelogaev is probably not an ethnic Russian.  



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:49 PM

has it been brought up that everyone being under one roof isn't fiscally realistic?


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 01:19 AM

Gelogaev is a freestyler from Russia who placed very high at Russian nationals (3rd 2006). Folkstyle may have been a little tougher for him. In his defense, he had the nations best wrestler in his weight class, Jake Varner.

http://www.okstate.c...aspx?rp_id=1753

I believe I read somewhere that he came from the same club as Satiev.


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#113 Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 01:42 AM

Gelogaev is a freestyler from Russia who placed very high at Russian nationals (3rd 2006).   Folkstyle may have been a little tougher for him.  In his defense, he had the nations best wrestler in his weight class, Jake Varner.  

 

http://www.okstate.c...aspx?rp_id=1753

from Saitiev club????? I have never heard about Saitiev club...maybe teammate?? 


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 03:01 AM

According to his OSU bio, his father's name is Alihan.  Doesn't sound like an ethnic Russian name to me, but I'm certainly not an expert.  

 

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#115 wrestlingnerd

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 05:23 AM

Alihan is a Turkish name. One of my college buddies is named Alihan. I'm not saying his dad must be Turkish, who knows, but that isn't a traditional ethnic Russian name.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 05:49 AM

OSU bio said born in Chechenya and "Trained under Russian wrestling legend Buvaisar Saitiev in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia for five years ..."

 

Was Satiev in Krasnoyarsk for five years? 



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Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:09 AM

from Saitiev club????? I have never heard about Saitiev club...maybe teammate?? 

 

Abdullahgadzhi,  my contact in Crimea say  Buvaisar Saitiev his sensei.   


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#118 Tofurky

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:08 AM

okay + Beloglazovs thats all....sambo like American football....Americans made American football because were bad in soccer and wanna be number one in American football, Russians made Sambo because were bad in Judo (but now Russia is nice in Judo, look Rio and London Olympics)

 

American football was born out of rugby, not soccer.



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:19 AM

Senegal is one of the African countries that has a huge wresting following but it's their own type of wrestling though.

 


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#120 Tofurky

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:22 AM

I doubt wrestling is the top sport anywhere except maybe some African countries which I do not know much about. Even in Iran it is dwarfed by football and even volleyball has bigger stars. 

 

I believe some African countries can legit fill large stadiums with wrestling and the guys make good money, but they wrestle their own style and not FS/GR. 

 

In fact these wrestling events you see in Iran (world cup, world team trials,etc) have completely free admission and most of the time they still can't fill the stands. 

 

I wish I could go to Iran for a lot of reasons, but mainly to take in the wrestling.






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