OhioSpladle 35 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 Had a big long winded post with my thoughts, but deleted all of it and figured we would just let some discussion happen. Potential Worlds guys for the next few years: 57kg Tony Ramos, Spencer Lee sometime by 2019 61kg Nashon Garrett, Will Joey McKenna ever make this again? 65kg Stieber/Oliver/Russell, Pico retires, Zain Retherford by 2018 70kg James Green for as long as he wants 74kg Jordan Burroughs(I could see him taking a year off), Dake/Dieringer 86kg J'Den Cox, David Taylor will battle for a spot here, which will be great 97kg Kyle Snyder 125kg Porbably Zach Rey for a year, Nick Gwizdowski takes it at some point. Hopefully we have these weights at the next Olympics, but it will prlly still be 6 right? Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 1,873 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 I think for the next two years we've got a great core of #1's in Kyle, J'Den, JB, Frank, and James. I'm still not sold on our current contenders at 57, 61, and 125. I wish there was a way to keep these guys properly funded to make the sacrifice worth their while and get them with a consistent, year-round coaching staff so they can develop at the appropriate rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyWishbone 7 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 You really think pico will retire? And what about yianni he may have some possibility to do well considering his talent now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 840 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 Lee won't make a world team until Fix decides he doesn't want to... Fix is going to be a career 25er in D1 which will make 57 his i hope Pico does his MMA for next 2 years to gauge his potential, then comes back in 2018 to start working towards 2020 Yanni is the wild card... he will just get better and knows which style is the one he should focus on... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CA_Wrestler 213 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Pico and Kalika said that they're going for 2020. What he does between now (surgery recovery) and 2020 is the mystery. Edited August 22, 2016 by CA_Wrestler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,528 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 Are you sure Fix is a career 125? Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 840 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 because he is done growing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 258 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 Lee won't make a world team until Fix decides he doesn't want to... Fix is going to be a career 25er in D1 which will make 57 his lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 1,762 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 How can you leave out Molinaro? He's looked great from the OTTs throught he Olympics. Also have to have to consider both Ramos and Dennis for obvious reasons. I hope Garrett stays committed to this next cycle. I think he can do some damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Threadkilla 98 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 This topic lacks any kind validity if you make no mention of Molinaro who was a second from beating the defending world champ for bronze and got screwed on scoring (I'm sure he had exposure that wasn't called, and challenging would be crazy.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,726 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 Had a big long winded post with my thoughts, but deleted all of it and figured we would just let some discussion happen. Potential Worlds guys for the next few years: 57kg Tony Ramos, Spencer Lee sometime by 2019 61kg Nashon Garrett, Will Joey McKenna ever make this again? 65kg Stieber/Oliver/Russell, Pico retires, Zain Retherford by 2018 70kg James Green for as long as he wants 74kg Jordan Burroughs(I could see him taking a year off), Dake/Dieringer 86kg J'Den Cox, David Taylor will battle for a spot here, which will be great 97kg Kyle Snyder 125kg Porbably Zach Rey for a year, Nick Gwizdowski takes it at some point. Hopefully we have these weights at the next Olympics, but it will prlly still be 6 right? Thoughts? My thoughts are that we will have medal threats at 70, 74, 86, and 97 and maybe a miracle medal once in a while at the other weights. Not really such a bright immediate future from the names you have listed (and Molinaro who is unlisted) for team USA, and an injury to Cox/Snyder or if Burroughs actually is over the hill as some suggest would be devastating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,025 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 Is it a given that Nahshon will compete at 61kg during non-Olympic years? Physically, he has good size to make a run at 57 if the cut isn't too much. Either way, I hope he can start competing internationally right away and get some much needed senior level experience on the mat. Jordan Oliver - I'm not sure he'll have the attention span to stick around past another year or two unless he sees some immediate results (e.g., medal at 70kg at Worlds this Dec) - though I hope he does stick it out. 86kg - Gabe Dean? Can Morgan Mac make the weight? Too much separation between him and Taylor in the wrestling room? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glory 23 Report post Posted August 22, 2016 Speaking of Molinaro, this is worth the 9 minutes. Really a first-class, insightful interview from after his last match: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/frank-molinaro-its-huge-sacrifice-reach-olympics 3 TheOhioState, denger and JohnnyWishbone reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 345 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 57 Fix or Lee ( Lee if he can get a little bigger). I'm not sure Ramos is going to wrestle anymore. Gillman perhaps ? 61 Dennis, maybe Garret. Yanni ? 65 Molinaro, Kennedy, Stieber, Zain. I think Zain will be the man here at some point. 70 Green, Oliver, Pico ? ( I think Pico is off with an injured knee so who knows ). 74 Burroughs, ( I think he wrestles in 2017 for a redemption tour ). Not sure what Dake and Howe will do. 86 Cox, and maybe Taylor, maybe some new guys like Bo Nickle. 97 The Boy King. ( I think Varner is done or going to Heavyweight ). Hwt. Gwiz, or Rey, Varner ? I believe a lot of guys are going to clear out and move on to other things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) 57: garret or lee 65: pico or molinaro, steiber or molinaro if pico retires 74: JB or dake 84: jden or taylor 97: lol heavy: gwiz or rey Edited August 23, 2016 by newyorkwrestler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhioSpladle 35 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 My bad guys, I made the assumption that molinaro and Dennis would be done Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingjunkie 10 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 They should bring back 52 or 53kg, Spencer Lee would be perfect for the weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,365 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 Can we get Stieber down to 61KG, please? 1 Billyhoyle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingjunkie 10 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 no way stieber can make 61 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,032 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 lol I'm calling you on this. No way you're loling. It's just not that funny any way you look at it. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 222 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 Molinaro has stated that he intends to compete through Tokyo. I think he would have won that match if he had just drove Chamizo feet out of bounds vs trying to ground the knees. If he had just drove through and ran him out they would have awarded 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,365 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 no way stieber can make 61 Looks small to me, but oh well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 840 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 next day weigh ins for a world medal... hell yes stieber can make 61 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnklePicker 383 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 57 Garret 61 Stieber 65 Molinaro 70 Green 74 Burroughs 86 Cox 97 Snyder 125 Gwiz Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denger 209 Report post Posted August 23, 2016 Do we assume that Coon is sticking with Greco? I gather that the guy has a lot of interests, but he's huge and still appears kinda raw/under developed, and he's had some Jr. success, right? I don't know, but he might have liked his chances of making the team better out of the thinner Greco pool than the denser Freestyle one. Gwiz is much more slick, but is he big enough to be competitive? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
