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Its cliche but Yazdani is a class act. I can't remember I time I felt more empathy for an international wrestler that an American beat in a gold medal match. 

It's of little to no comfort for Yazdani or his fans I'm sure but I'm grateful for him because he elevated David Taylor's came and his greatness made this one of the most special matches in USA wrestling history. He'll always be a champion and I'll always be a fan. I look forward to his next competition and wish him the best. 

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7 hours ago, The Genius said:

I cannot imagine the pressure he was under and how badly he wanted to win. 

For others, he says he knows how much people care about him and he's sorry he didn't win (then leaves because he is overcome with emotion). Quite emotional. 

Probably my favorite non-american. I hope he keeps going for a long time.

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Mohammadian loses 3-6 to Odikadze in the first round. His performance in Italy was an utter fluke. Shame on us for ever thinking he could give Sadulaev a close match. 

He seemed to gas in the second period, as has become customary for the Iranian wrestlers. 

Unbelievable. 

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3 minutes ago, The Genius said:

Mohammadian loses 3-6 to Odikadze in the first round. His performance in Italy was an utter fluke. Shame on us for ever thinking he could give Sadulaev a close match. 

He seemed to gas in the second period, as has become customary for the Iranian wrestlers. 

Unbelievable. 

That was even more disappointing than Yazdani losing for me. Can't call Italy a fluke, he looked just as good at asian qualifying and Poland a few months ago, but he didn't look the same at all today, not his attacking usual self. Physically he also didn't look as good. I'm gutted, I wanted and believed based on his performances he could even challenge Sad! As did some non Iranians. Didn't even get that close and won't even go for bronze....what on earth happened.

Iran never used to have such bad conditioning, quite good actually, something is going wrong and needs to be rectified. Very sad.

Think we will have a new FS coach after this. One bronze and one silver only likely after Zare is a massive letdown.

I'm going back to bed.

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How is Zare viewed in Iran? Do people tip him to be 125 kg king for the next decade or just very good and happy to win bronze.  He is what 20?  

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13 minutes ago, The Genius said:

I want the entire Iranian FS wrestling coaching staff fired by the morning. Bana can stay, GR did alright with worse wrestlers. 

Horrific conditioning across the entire team, wtf is up with that? Shambolic. 

When did this change? I always associated Iran with intense forward pressure from underhooks and huge tanks. Overtraining?

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Just now, HawkY said:

How is Zare viewed in Iran? Do people tip him to be 130 kg king for the next decade or just very good and happy to win bronze.  He is what 20?  

I think more towards the latter with a promising future. I think bronze would be a good result for him considering age and being his first olympics, and he actually was doing good vs Geno before gassing. He is 20, so the hope is he will be up there in top 2 for the next few years after Akgul and Geno pass the torch. But there are also some young guys coming up who might give him a run for number 1 spot. But I reckon he will be number 1 for the next few years at least.

Now I am sad again that I remembered Zare gassing. Something is off here in their prep collectively.

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2 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said:

That was even more disappointing than Yazdani losing for me. Can't call Italy a fluke, he looked just as good at asian qualifying and Poland a few months ago, but he didn't look the same at all today, not his attacking usual self. Physically he also didn't look as good. I'm gutted, I wanted and believed based on his performances he could even challenge Sad! As did some non Iranians. Didn't even get that close and won't even go for bronze....what on earth happened.

Iran never used to have such bad conditioning, quite good actually, something is going wrong and needs to be rectified. Very sad.

Think we will have a new FS coach after this. One bronze and one silver only likely after Zare is a massive letdown.

I'm going back to bed.

This was much worse than Yazdani. Yazdani came prepared and improved a lot from last time and lost by a tiny margin in the last 10 seconds to the best guy in the world, which can happen. 

Mohammadian didn't look good in Poland. He barely did anything in his two matches against Shabani and Karimi, very similar to his performance here actually. Except then at least he turned up in shape and didn't give up with 2 minutes left in his first (and only) match.

It's like the entire camp is suffering from long covid or something. 

I'm out. 

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2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

When did this change? I always associated Iran with intense forward pressure from underhooks and huge tanks. Overtraining?

I agree, I think this Olympics is the first I remember that it has been a collective issue which leads you to think that something has been off in their preparation whether it be the weight cut, nutrition, their s&c, not acclimatising. I don't know, but something is off. Iran actually usually has great reserve and conditioning. That wasn't the Mohammadian that we have know. Very upetting

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3 minutes ago, The Genius said:

This was much worse than Yazdani. Yazdani came prepared and improved a lot from last time and lost by a tiny margin in the last 10 seconds to the best guy in the world, which can happen. 

Mohammadian didn't look good in Poland. He barely did anything in his two matches against Shabani and Karimi, very similar to his performance here actually. Except then at least he turned up in shape and didn't give up with 2 minutes left in his first (and only) match.

It's like the entire camp is suffering from long covid or something. 

I'm out. 

Mohammadian has not just beat, but destroyed anyone who is not Iranian since Jan 2020. He was like that in Poland. Team mates and training partners I can expect low scoring close encounters. But this just did not look like the same guy.

It is sad, but Atri, Yazdani, Zare and Hosseinkhani done around the amount expected pre tournament. Kinda wanted perhaps one of them to overahieve though. Hopefully Zare doesn't flop bronze!

But Mohammadian is the biggest and most surprising let down. He is our Dake. That was not the same man from Rome

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For Oslo I guess now we will have Shabani vs Goleij winner going. Shabani I assume will get his shot.

86 and 92. Depending on what Yaz wants to do. I would like Ebrahimi if Ghasempour isn't at 86 otherwise send Kamran at 92kg if Yaz is going to.

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Zare  had a loss to a Russian at the Alans, I don't remember the guys name. It was like a month before 2020. Don't think he was too close to making their team and Russia is weak at HW anyway.

The Russian pretty much shut him down as far as getting pushed out goes, then shot for a takedown in the last 20 seconds or so and won. Risky gameplan but it worked. So not too surprised as obviously there were way better guys here.  You can't expect much when you can only do 1 thing. 

 

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21 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

When did this change? I always associated Iran with intense forward pressure from underhooks and huge tanks. Overtraining?

I think the Iranian style of wrestling is so boring that now it's actually causing the wrestlers themselves to become tired while executing it. Scary stuff.

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This will be known as a failure and there will be a shakeup in coaching staff. I hope somehow the core issues are resolved.

It's a shame our 2 best wrestlers are at the same weight in Yazdani and Ghasempour. Kamran really deserves a shot, would like him to be our 86 delegate in Oslo and see how he does against Taylor and Ebrahimi at 92.

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