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1 hour ago, The Genius said:

watch from 8.50 - how is that not a DQ as well?

if you listen closely at 9.32 they say he is disqualified after he refuses to go to the centre

oh I didn't notice that. I was watching two matches at the same time .

his name is still in the list, and they listed his match like a normal defeat. the same as Haji Aliyev. we will see if they let them wrestle tomorrow but i'm afraid they will. and it's still funny how they disqualified that kid just for not shaking hands with the coach ! and stole the team title from Iran.

it seems rules are different for different countries.

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13 minutes ago, wrestfan said:

oh I didn't notice that. I was watching two matches at the same time .

his name is still in the list, and they listed his match like a normal defeat. the same as Haji Aliyev. we will see if they let them wrestle tomorrow but i'm afraid they will. and it's still funny how they disqualified that kid just for not shaking hands with the coach ! and stole the team title from Iran.

it seems rules are different for different countries.

And let's not even talk about Yakheshi ... Actually in the GR medal ceremony one Bronze guy from Uzbek at 77kg did not wear proper tracksuit but they didn't DQ him...! 

Iran Wrestling Federation must submit a formal complaint about this clear and significant disparity in the application of the rules, especially if Aliyev and Amiraslanov are allowed to wrestle tomorrow. 

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Neither Amiraslanov nor Aliyev got DQd, Lol @ UWW. 

57kg: Atri beat Bekhbayar 4-4 but lost the Bronze medal match vs IND 6-3. The Indian had a very good tournament, Atri looked gassed at the end. 10 points to Atri. 

70kg: Emami lost to Kaiponov in the SF 7-6 but will wrestle for Bronze tomorrow and should win. 10/15 points.

74kg: Afzali 0-1 and out. 0 points. 

92kg: Karimi vs Cox final for Gold tomorrow. Karimi a big underdog and Cox hasn't conceded a point yet, but neither were troubled as expected. 20/25 points. 

125kg: Our boy Mohebbi beat Gwiz as I knew he would, time to find that US chump that said Gwiz was top 3 in the world - Lol. Unfortunately Mohebbi then lost to UKR who lost to Geno so he's out. 2 wins and a scoring loss should get us some points though. 

Tomorrow's draws:

Bad. 

61kg: Ehsanpour is in the same bracket as Bonne, Idrisov and Yamaguchi! Other bracket is much weaker, very bad luck for Ehsanpour. 

79kg: Teymouri also has a terrible draw - in the same bracket as Dake, GEO and RUS! Other bracket very weak also, but Teymouri can maybe challenge for Bronze (unlikely).

86kg: Yazdani got the same bracket as unseeded Naifonov! And USA and Shabanau... Other bracket has... Nobody. But shouldn't be a problem for Yazdani. 

97kg: Shabani is in same bracket as Snyder, Odikadze (2018 Bronze) and Sharifov. Isn't Sharifov a bit small for 97kg?! I guess we'll find out. Shabani can have a good fight for Bronze. 

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10 minutes ago, The Genius said:

Karimi looks fantastic, as usual. He is comfortably better than anyone else but he always loses to Cox, and I don't think that will change tomorrow. 

In all honesty, so far it has not been a good championship for Iran, but then again, everyone has done pretty much as expected.

Atri, and Mohebbi in fact may have done better than I expected.

The younger Yazdani was at his first seniors tournament in a very competetive weight, so one win is not terrible

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Snyder taken out 5-2 by Sharifov! No Snyder-Saluvaev 3. 

Karimi should move to 97kg, he has a good record against Sharifov and Shabani doesn't look ready. Karimi is small even for 92kg so maybe it won't work out, but maybe that will be a positive in terms of speed and flexibility (as in the case of Sharifov vs Snyder).  

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92kg: Karimi loses in the final 4-0 vs Cox and wins Silver, Iran's second medal. Terrible performance from Karimi, conceded two takedowns in the first period VERY cheaply.

Cox just way too big and strong for Karimi, Karimi not able to get any offence off at all. 

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7 minutes ago, Housebuye said:

Who do you think is the US rep next year? Snyder or Cox?

Anytime you ask a question like that after one guy won gold and the other had a somewhat unexpected ( although not overly surprising) loss most will want to answer with the guy who won gold.

BUT it has to be said 92 is the weakest weight at worlds by far and in addition to beating Snyder Sharifov is also 2 - 0 against Cox. I don't agree with the comments I see here about Cox being the best American wrestler currently. Great wrestler but your team is strong and I won't say that until he does it at a better weight.

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I think Karimi already lost the next possible match vs Cox and the next one. he didn't even try ! I think he could beat Sharifov even today when they are in two different weights but Cox is impossible for him. he believes that and even if they wrestle 10 more times he will lose all of them.

it was a very easy day for Yazdani . and I still don't know how come some people were expecting Naifonov to challenge Yazdani ?! and it seems my prediction ( which was very easy) is right, I said 1 gold, 1 silver and 1 or 2 bronze. I don't trust Ehsanpour to win the bronze tomorrow. he is good but he just doesn't win when it matters. he could beat Idrisov today , Emami got robbed in the semifinal, he had a dream draw so he can't complain.

Teymouri gassed against someone 100 years older than himself ! he got weaker and weaker since he joined the national camp. his win over J. Hassanov in Takhti Cup was a fluke apparently. really disappointed with Shabani, I think he probably never faced this kind of wrestlers, he needs more international experience , he is good but not ready for this level yet.

Afzali going down 0-1 was expected, sending nobody was a better option than sending him ! A. Yazdani did OK, he could beat the Cuban but still he couldn't go that far. I think we can count on him for the future, but not the next Olympics. and Atri !? thanks for winning the quota but watching him is like a torture, he always "can" win but most of the time he doesn't. do you guys remember the first 2 years of Rahimi ? was he like the current Atri ? some people make this comparison . I'm not sure about it. but I know Rahimi improved his level massively after the 2012 Olympics.

so we know Iran have the quota in 57 and 86. what about the other 4 weights.

65, KAZ, IND, JPN and MGL qualified here, the Asian qualifier won't be that hard. still not a sure thing.

74, JPN and KAZ qualified, the Japanese guy was probably worse than Afzali but a dream draw does wonders. still we have to deal with Abdurakhmanov and couple more guys. but the first question is, who we can send to China ?! is there any option at all ? Hosseinkhani after the recovery ? Emami ?

97. KAZ qualified, I wonder if we have to worry about Ibragimov. he is getting old and weak but still tricky. MGL is also not that bad. even Musaev. but we have some options in this weight, I assume it won't be that hard.

125, CHN , UZB and SYR qualified, no problem here, I think even Mohebbi can qualify the weight.

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Wrestfan what do you think about this little idea I had before worlds:

 

I knew Ghasempour would also win 86 let alone Yazdani. Actually with the Naifanov I saw even Bazri might beat him. I was thinking what if they sent Ghasempour at 86 considering that he would almost certainly win gold and then have Yazdani wrestle 92 and see what he can do with Cox. Maybe they would have got two golds. Worse case scenario they get the same result they got now. 

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5 minutes ago, Shiraz123 said:

Wrestfan what do you think about this little idea I had before worlds:

 

I knew Ghasempour would also win 86 let alone Yazdani. Actually with the Naifanov I saw even Bazri might beat him. I was thinking what if they sent Ghasempour at 86 considering that he would almost certainly win gold and then have Yazdani wrestle 92 and see what he can do with Cox. Maybe they would have got two golds. Worse case scenario they get the same result they got now. 

maybe but it's not fair for Yazdani. this should be his decision. 86kg is an Olympic weight, "his weight" I know they told guys to change weight before but not to the Olympic Champion.

but Yazdani vs Cox could be very interesting. did Cox wrestled any other Iranian wrestler beside Karimi ? I have a feeling it happened before but I can't remember it. I just want to know if it's just a Karimi thing or all Iranians were this hopeless against him.

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7 minutes ago, wrestfan said:

maybe but it's not fair for Yazdani. this should be his decision. 86kg is an Olympic weight, "his weight" I know they told guys to change weight before but not to the Olympic Champion.

but Yazdani vs Cox could be very interesting. did Cox wrestled any other Iranian wrestler beside Karimi ? I have a feeling it happened before but I can't remember it. I just want to know if it's just a Karimi thing or all Iranians were this hopeless against him.

 He beat Jokar when they wrestled in New York

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57kg: Atri —> 10 pts

61kg: Ehsanpour —> 10/15 pts

65kg: Amir Yazdani —> 0 pts 

70kg: Emami —> 15 pts 

74kg: Afzali —> 0 pts

79kg: Teymouri —> 0 pts

86kg: Yazdani —> 20/25 pts

92kg: Karimi —> 20 pts 

97kg: Shabani —> 0 pts?

125kg: Mohebbi —> 6 pts

Total: 91 pts. Should give Iran a 4th place finish in the FS team race. 

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Just now, AZ_wrestling said:

What are the team scores for men’s FS? Can the US move up a bit if Dake and Snyder win?

See above.

To my calculations USA: 40+ 10/15 (61kg) + 25 (79kg) + 2-4 (86kg) + 15 (97kg) = 92-99 points

I think USA will finish 2nd or 3rd behind Kazakhstan (who should get 100+ pts)

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57: I honestly don't think Atri is ever going to win a medal. A good draw is not likely at this weight, too many strong wrestlers. I'm also hearing he has major weight problems. Rahimi got his medal after the third try and this was Atri's third try and he failed. Rahimi was also a junior world champion. Atri failed there also. You could say Rahimi never had to deal with 2 day weighins but when Rahimi was wrestling the weight was 55 now it's 57. Still they have no other choice but to send him. If he got a medal here I am 100% sure he would have gone to the Olympics without any trial but now we will see. I still think there is a high chance they just send him. Who else is there, that Sarlak guy? Amouzad from cadets? lol 

61: Hopefully he gets a bronze. I don't like this "haghesh tala bod" rubbish you always hear from Iranian fans but he really could have done it. Still has the same weaknesses but even with those he could have got it. Last Olympics he didn't even try (or wasn't given the chance) to make the team so I wonder if he does this time or if he we are not going to hear from him until 2021. Iran won junior world gold at 60kg juniors in 2012,2014,2015 and 2016. That has so far translated to an incredible 0 senior world medals. 

65: Tobier is a good wrestler with world medals and even multiple wins over Haji Aliyev and I thought Yazdani wrestled him well. When the weight is this strong and wrestlers at the calibre of Otoguro can't win a medal then obviously he won't get one either. It's a shame all of our junior world champions from 61 the past few years have been total failures or else we could have had someone more experienced at this weight.  

70: Emami had such a good draw. They didn't give his takedown at the end but if he was on the other side i'm not sure he would have even won a medal so maybe a fair result in the end. 

74: I knew he was going to lose but he didn't have to lose to 40 year old Garzon. It's really going to have to be Hosseinkhani for Tokyo. They might send him without a trial even. Maybe they'll give Mohammadi another chance. I can't think of anyone else. Emami seems too small for me. 

79: Teymouri was hand picked without a trial and lost to an old wrestler. In countries like Russia they basically only send someone without a trial if they are a 99.99% gold chance (Sadulaev 2016) in Iran at this point we are regularly sending average wrestlers to worlds without trials as if Teymouri is a multiple time world champion. The coaches really have to answer for this one because this is a wrestler they hand picked based off of a fluke match in his hometown. 

86: I really wish Taylor was here because this weight really has no excitement without him. Hopefully they can wrestle at some random tournament before the Olympics. I wonder if Hassan will go without any trial? I hope they don't do what they did after he won gold in 2017 which is to not enter him into any tournaments outside of Asia!  Big question is if Cox will go down or up. I feel confident Hassan would beat Cox at 86 with these weigh in rules so I kind of hope he comes down and beats Taylor, lol. 

92: I think whenever Karimi hits someone he isn't physically stronger than it kind of takes him out of the match. A lot of his success is based on how physical he is and Cox is one of those guys he doesn't have that advantage against. Same as when he wrestled Hassan in the trials. Feel bad for him he's good wrestler but Cox is better. Btw what was that takedown at the start? I haven't seen it again but it looked like Cox slapped his knee and he fell over. Match was basically over after that. I'm guessing he goes 97. I'd give him a decent chance to make our Olympic team. 

97: I actually thought Odikadze would be a good matchup for Shabani because he gets tired easily but he couldn't beat him. I really hope they just hold a normal trial in this weight and send whoever wins. 

125: If Hadi isn't recovered i'm guessing that they use Mohebi to qualify the weight and then just send Hadi. 

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