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6 hours ago, The Genius said:

He got a better deal than Mollaei. His stories only got him to Mongolia. 

well they are different cases, Mollaei was a famous athlete, he was a world champion but he was also a greedy charlatan and wanted money quickly. Mongolia was ready to pay him. if you followed his story closely it was kind of funny, a year ago in Iran TV he talked about falling in love with an Azerbaijani girl and getting ready to marry her but 4 months later he was deeeeeeply in love with a German girl in love with everything German and wanted to live his whole life there, few months later he ended shaking hands with Mongolian president !! but this guy Zangeneh is very poor with almost no life in Iran and just wanted to live somewhere else. even at a weak weight like 74kg he was still a nobody. he would never make the senior team in Iran, even his U23 world medal which that's what he probably sold to the Canadians was pure luck. he lost to someone from Romania and got the bronze medal because someone else got injured and he only had to win 1 match for that.

2 months ago I heard in some wrestling pages (running by notorious journalists) that he was arrested in iran during the protests and got shot to the eye ! and they only "released" him because those pages made it public !!! at first it was a shocking sad news and made me really upset but then few days later he was in Canada with perfect eyes !!!! and I really fell stupid believing those stories in first place.

the truth is the economy is beyond terrible in Iran because of those sanctions and of course mismanagement , and the future doesn't look good. if you traveled to Iran in past couple of years you probably noticed that everybody is angry these days. you can even see that in instagram comments. even when that Zimbabwean guy dances (which is really a cool thing) people still curse somebody for something irrelevant !

in past 6 months, so many Iranian athletes (some of them top level athletes) left the country, most of them just left (and I respect their decision) but a few of them were stupid like this guy and made it political by creating fake stories just to make the processes quicker. I call them stupid because when you are a high level athlete, it's not hard to immigrate to somewhere else and you can do it without destroying all bridges behind yourself. in Zangeneh's case I don't think he has a proper family in Iran, so maybe he had nothing to lose in destroying the bridge !

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9 hours ago, wrestfan said:

well they are different cases, Mollaei was a famous athlete, he was a world champion but he was also a greedy charlatan and wanted money quickly. Mongolia was ready to pay him. if you followed his story closely it was kind of funny, a year ago in Iran TV he talked about falling in love with an Azerbaijani girl and getting ready to marry her but 4 months later he was deeeeeeply in love with a German girl in love with everything German and wanted to live his whole life there, few months later he ended shaking hands with Mongolian president !! but this guy Zangeneh is very poor with almost no life in Iran and just wanted to live somewhere else. even at a weak weight like 74kg he was still a nobody. he would never make the senior team in Iran, even his U23 world medal which that's what he probably sold to the Canadians was pure luck. he lost to someone from Romania and got the bronze medal because someone else got injured and he only had to win 1 match for that.

2 months ago I heard in some wrestling pages (running by notorious journalists) that he was arrested in iran during the protests and got shot to the eye ! and they only "released" him because those pages made it public !!! at first it was a shocking sad news and made me really upset but then few days later he was in Canada with perfect eyes !!!! and I really fell stupid believing those stories in first place.

the truth is the economy is beyond terrible in Iran because of those sanctions and of course mismanagement , and the future doesn't look good. if you traveled to Iran in past couple of years you probably noticed that everybody is angry these days. you can even see that in instagram comments. even when that Zimbabwean guy dances (which is really a cool thing) people still curse somebody for something irrelevant !

in past 6 months, so many Iranian athletes (some of them top level athletes) left the country, most of them just left (and I respect their decision) but a few of them were stupid like this guy and made it political by creating fake stories just to make the processes quicker. I call them stupid because when you are a high level athlete, it's not hard to immigrate to somewhere else and you can do it without destroying all bridges behind yourself. in Zangeneh's case I don't think he has a proper family in Iran, so maybe he had nothing to lose in destroying the bridge !

I was only sad to see Kimia leave. And the junior chess kid from Mazandaran.  

My impressions of being in Iran recently and speaking to many friends and family inside Iran is that it is a very poisoned society. There is no hope and people are not happy at all and society is sick! I can't think of a better way to say it than that. 

But the Iranians I speak to are not necessarily representative of all Iranians (mostly from Tehran and northern Iran - all very educated, not religious, etc). Iran is such a big country with such a radical divergences of opinions and lives that I hesitate to really put labels on the situation, but clearly things are not good. 

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after a short camp they narrowed the list of invited wrestlers, almost the same list but they dropped some names, officially for the Asian Championship but I believe it's also for the Olympic itself ! interesting point, Meisam Nasiri is not in the list !!! I wonder if something happened between him and the coaches after that refereeing committee announcement ?!

57, Atri, Sarlak, Khodabakhshi

61, Dastan, Ebadi

65, Ehsanpour, Maghsoudi

70, Hosseini

74, Hosseinkhani, Emami

79, Savadkouhi, Kavousi, Nokhodi

86, Yazdani, Ghasempour, Bazri

92, Ebrahimi, Shahbazi

97, Mohammadian, Karimi, Goleij, Shaabani

125, Hadi, Mohebbi, Taheri, Zare

another thing usually the order of the names means something, it's not just random. whoever is first he is usually "first" for the coaches too. I noticed they switched Emami and Hosseinkhani, also Mohammadian and Karimi ! it's also interesting Zare was 2nd behind Hadi in the previous list, now he is last in the line ?! just an accident ?

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1 hour ago, Shiraz123 said:

Must be an accident. Zare has a case for being the first choice right now, even if not he's definitely ahead of Taheri. 

yeah it's more like someone forgot his name and added it later

but they just announced the squad for the Asian Championship officially

Sarlak 57, Dastan 61, Maghsoudi 65, Hosseini 70, Hosseinkhani 74, Savadkouhi 79, Bazri 86, Ebrahimi 92, Goleij 97 and Hadi 125

all of them Takhti Cup gold medalists except Majid Dastan. I also somehow considered Maghsoudi as Takhti Cup winner

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7 minutes ago, Shiraz123 said:

Will be interesting to see who they send to qualify the weights. Maghsoudi, Emami, Mohammadian and Zare? 

I think only Mohammadian is a sure thing. for the rest they will decide after the Asian Championship. I think Zare is almost there too. even though it doesn't really matter, 125kg is easy in Asia.

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52 minutes ago, wrestfan said:

I think only Mohammadian is a sure thing. for the rest they will decide after the Asian Championship. I think Zare is almost there too. even though it doesn't really matter, 125kg is easy in Asia.

I have mixed feelings about 125.  On the one hand, Zare is a rising star, and I would love to see him do well in the Olympics.  On the other hand, Hadi deserves a shot at the olympics, and I would love to see him finish his career with a bronze olympic medal

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now we know what happened to Meisam Nasiri, he was told to wrestle Maghsoudi inside the national camp , it was supposed to be a trial for the Asian Championship but Nasiri refused and left the camp instead. today he had an interview and he said he is not going back to the national team as long as Gholamreza Mohammadi is coaching the team.

meanwhile IAWF president Alireza Dabir is apparently in Nasiri's side (or at least he pretends) he ordered the coaching staff to review this again and he asked for justice. and Zanjan Wrestling Association (where Nasiri came from) officially asked IAWF to send Nasiri to the Olympic qualifier instead.

personally I don't think anything changes, Dabir just tries to show he cares about all wrestlers from all provinces, but at the end of the day they are not going to change their decision and by leaving the camp and specially this interview Nasiri killed his chance for anything else later. even if Maghsoudi fails in Asia, they will send Ehsanpour to the Olympic qualifier. just my guess though.

 

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14 hours ago, 2td3nf said:

 Is Hassan Yazdani’s injury healed up? Will he wrestle at Asian’s?

he was never supposed to wrestle at the Asian Championship, I posted the squad before

On 2/4/2020 at 9:14 PM, wrestfan said:

but they just announced the squad for the Asian Championship officially

Sarlak 57, Dastan 61, Maghsoudi 65, Hosseini 70, Hosseinkhani 74, Savadkouhi 79, Bazri 86, Ebrahimi 92, Goleij 97 and Hadi 125

but he says he will be back on the mat in 20 days, it seems the recovery process is going well for him.

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1 hour ago, wrestfan said:

he was never supposed to wrestle at the Asian Championship, I posted the squad before

but he says he will be back on the mat in 20 days, it seems the recovery process is going well for him.

I’m envisioning two hobbled world champs in the Olympic finals. Yazdani vs Taylor. 

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Did anybody see what happened in 87kg Greco-Roman Asian Championships semifinal between Hedayat (Iran) and his Kyrgyz opponent, Hedayat was leading 7-0 but then withdrew because "injury" with only 6 seconds to go !!!!

they really have to ban this guy for life. he should never see the color of a wrestling mat in his life.

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24 minutes ago, wrestfan said:

Did anybody see what happened in 87kg Greco-Roman Asian Championships semifinal between Hedayat (Iran) and his Kyrgyz opponent, Hedayat was leading 7-0 but then withdrew because "injury" with only 6 seconds to go !!!!

they really have to ban this guy for life. he should never see the color of a wrestling mat in his life.

That was strange. Maybe he is scared he will fail a drug test if he wins a medal and they test him? 

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5 hours ago, Shiraz123 said:

That was strange. Maybe he is scared he will fail a drug test if he wins a medal and they test him? 

of course, there is no other way to explain it, he came from nowhere and beat everybody in Iran, if you watch his Takhti Cup final vs Ramin Taheri, Taheri could do nothing against him. he was just too strong for Taheri and today we found out why he was so strong !

it's funny , he had to wrestle for bronze and he just had to show up to take it ! both other wrestlers in repechage were disqualified (I assume they left the stadium didn't notice they have to wrestle in repechage) but still Hedayat didn't show up to take the bronze, because obviously he didn't want it ! lol

 

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3 minutes ago, wrestfan said:

of course, there is no other way to explain it, he came from nowhere and beat everybody in Iran, if you watch his Takhti Cup final vs Ramin Taheri, Taheri could do nothing against him. he was just too strong for Taheri and today we found out why he was so strong !

it's funny , he had to wrestle for bronze and he just had to show up to take it ! both other wrestlers in repechage were disqualified (I assume they left the stadium didn't notice they have to wrestle in repechage) but still Hedayat didn't show up to take the bronze, because obviously he didn't want it ! lol

 

Please educate me on this

do they test all medal winners, and the other wrestlers get randomly tested?

Why would he even attempt to wrestle the semi final if that was the reason?

Has he had a history of juicing?

With all these sanctions, where people have trouble getting medicine, how the hell do these people find PED anyway?

 

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2 minutes ago, irani said:

Please educate me on this

do they test all medal winners, and the other wrestlers get randomly tested?

Why would he even attempt to wrestle the semi final if that was the reason?

Has he had a history of juicing?

With all these sanctions, where people have trouble getting medicine, how the hell do these people find PED anyway?

 

Yes as far as I know they test all medal winners and some other wrestlers, but I think testing medal winners is mandatory

I really don't know to be honest, obviously he is not the smartest person on the planet, I mean look at the match, he is not even a good actor ! he could fake this injury after 3 or 4 minutes to make it look more real. not with only 6 seconds to go ! and just after that show, he is almost walking with no problem !!

he was a nobody until few months ago, I never heard his name until he won the nationals, then he won all his matches in the league and finally by winning the Takhti Cup (and beating Ramin Taheri) he forced the national coaches to consider him. but it's hard to believe a nobody can improve at this rate ! It was always suspicious because he was super strong.

well it's not like medicines and drugs are impossible to find, most of them are being produced inside Iran, the shortage of medicine is mostly about some certain drugs. and come on if you pay good money you can find anything you want. Iran is a big big country with lots of borders, easy to smuggle anything you want in. people are suffering because they have to pay more to get the same medicine but it's not like you can't find them to buy.

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I happened to meet a guy from Iran who lives in NY now and he told me that you can get all sorts of drugs in Iran including weed and hashish, even alcohol. He said just don’t get caught.  Interesting. 

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19 hours ago, 2td3nf said:

I happened to meet a guy from Iran who lives in NY now and he told me that you can get all sorts of drugs in Iran including weed and hashish, even alcohol. He said just don’t get caught.  Interesting. 

Yes you can get anything in Iran. Actually the place has a drug addict problem at the moment. 

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