VakAttack 4,014 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/01/cael_sanderson_not_overly_conc.html#incart_river_index And despite that impressive title, the six-time Minnesota state champion and Junior World champion will still be known as freshman redshirt Mark Hall. "Yeah, same plan,'' Sanderson said. "He (Hall) wrestled well. I mean, that's the kid we recruited. We're happy and excited even more about his potential moving forward.'' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) hum................... The only rationale for when Cael redshirted Zain and co. was that he was doing whats best for the kids as individuals. Which was legitimate. If thats his rationale now why is suriano out there? He must really think they have it locked up already. Edited January 4, 2017 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,600 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 Called it by a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingFan89 246 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 hum................... The only rationale for when Cael redshirted Zain and co. was that he was doing whats best for the kids as individuals. Which was legitimate. If thats his rationale now why is suriano out there? He must really think they have it locked up already. Sutiano has no goal of being a 4 timer because Spencer Lee is on his way, probably figures he has a better chance to get 1 against Gilman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Cael is such a troll. I love it Sanderson said Hall is a likely airplane passenger as well, since he is from Apple Valley, Minnesota. "We like to take some of the younger guys, too, if we can, just to get them in that atmosphere. Minnesota always has a great atmosphere; Nebraska has a great atmosphere. This is one of those trips you want to get your guys out there and let them feel it and let them experience it and be a part of the team. We have some decisions to make.'' What? That's not typical. Edited January 4, 2017 by LemonPie 1 PA Power reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingK0ng 175 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 NOOOOooooo, I can't take an extra 4 years of this nuthuggin 4 GranbyTroll, KCMO2, xander and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 546 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 NOOOOooooo, I can't take an extra 4 years of this nuthuggin Well ti will only be 1 extra year since 4 was already guaranteed. Now if he gets and takes and Olympic RS it would be 2 extra hears of hugging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,428 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 You do know that sauriano has beaten Spencer Lee, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingFan89 246 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Sarcasm 1 Perry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,534 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 So can the moderator just auto archive any old and new mHall threads & we can view them next year & won't be wasting valuable forum space this year? 2 KingK0ng and xander reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoStNuMbEr 320 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Booooooooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 hum................... The only rationale for when Cael redshirted Zain and co. was that he was doing whats best for the kids as individuals. Which was legitimate. If thats his rationale now why is suriano out there? He must really think they have it locked up already. I've been under the impression that Nick Suriano's plan is to put in his time at PSU, check off the college degree & D1 wrestling boxes from his list, and move on to compete in MMA or become a combat sports or entertainment personality. If he had any say, he probably wanted to compete sooner than later and not redshirt. About Mark Hall, will he be 25-26 years old by the time he graduates? Does having so much deferred time put his post-college/international career at risk? I guess 26 isn't that old to shift 100% to freestyle but it does seem like it would narrow his window a little bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 24 for 5th year senior. Logan Stieber was also a January b-day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,479 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I've been under the impression that Nick Suriano's plan is to put in his time at PSU, check off the college degree & D1 wrestling boxes from his list, and move on to compete in MMA or become a combat sports or entertainment personality. If he had any say, he probably wanted to compete sooner than later and not redshirt. About Mark Hall, will he be 25-26 years old by the time he graduates? Does having so much deferred time put his post-college/international career at risk? I guess 26 isn't that old to shift 100% to freestyle but it does seem like it would narrow his window a little bit. Yes, by redshirting this year, Hall is trading in his age 25 year of freestyle in favor of folk (assuming he takes an olympic redshirt) . This also assumes that he does not go the Kyle Snyder part time NCAA wrestler route, which I am not yet sure whether Cael is in favor of. Of course, all that assumes he stays at Penn State as an NCAA wrestler the entire time. A lot of variables. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHRoseWrestling 187 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I've been under the impression that Nick Suriano's plan is to put in his time at PSU, check off the college degree & D1 wrestling boxes from his list, and move on to compete in MMA or become a combat sports or entertainment personality. If he had any say, he probably wanted to compete sooner than later and not redshirt. About Mark Hall, will he be 25-26 years old by the time he graduates? Does having so much deferred time put his post-college/international career at risk? I guess 26 isn't that old to shift 100% to freestyle but it does seem like it would narrow his window a little bit. Recent history would indicate that training and competing as an NCAA athlete in a top program does not put one's international career at risk. I would think, to the contrary, that it is the opinion of the PSU staff that being a member of the collegiate team up to 2020 and into Hall's mid-20's is actually the best path to international success. Edited January 5, 2017 by JHRoseWrestling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,014 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I've talked about Hall staying in redshirt to physically mature, but I forgot about his age. He's 20, he may not mature that much more. That said, it's his career, it seems apparent he could have the spot if he wanted it. If he wants to redshirt, good luck to him. Has there ever been a 25 year old 5th year D1 senior who didn't take a Mormon trip or military? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I've talked about Hall staying in redshirt to physically mature, but I forgot about his age. He's 20, he may not mature that much more. That said, it's his career, it seems apparent he could have the spot if he wanted it. If he wants to redshirt, good luck to him. Has there ever been a 25 year old 5th year D1 senior who didn't take a Mormon trip or military? At 25, he'd have to be a 6th year, dummy. He's basically the same age as Logan was (same month). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,014 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 At 25, he'd have to be a 6th year, dummy. He's basically the same age as Logan was (same month). I think it's pretty clear he's going to take an Oly RS in 2020, dummy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I think it's pretty clear he's going to take an Oly RS in 2020, dummy.Which would make him a 6th year senior. Would it not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,014 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Which would make him a 6th year senior. Would it not? Sigh. Fine: Has there ever been a guy competing at 25 yoa without taking a Mormon trip or military? I imagine maybe someone who suffered an injury may have been the answer. Hall will be the most high profile guy I can think of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Sigh. Fine: Has there ever been a guy competing at 25 yoa without taking a Mormon trip or military? I imagine maybe someone who suffered an injury may have been the answer. Hall will be the most high profile guy I can think of. Not that I can think of. Hall would be 25 and 2 months at nationals. Grajales was 24 and 5 months. Howe 24 and 8 months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Well I suspect Sanderson will pull Hall's reshirt if the weekend doesn't go well. FWIW, he is also bringing Hall on the trip even if he doesn't wrestle. But if he doesn't rumor has it that Sanderson is a pretty good coach, who makes pretty good decisions, and wins a lot of really important wrestling tournaments (I am getting old but if memory serves he was a better than average wrestler too). I am 100% sure he knows more about college wrestling, and his own team, than I do. 2 NYWRESTLER94 and tabenn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,254 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Mocco was 24 and change w/o an Oly Redshirt. Pat Downey will be well over 25 next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Mocco was 24 and change w/o an Oly Redshirt. Pat Downey will be well over 25 next year. thats nuts. Doogie Howser was just 14 when he finished medical school. 4 GranbyTroll, Yellow_Medal, Gantry and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUMike 445 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 You do know that sauriano has beaten Spencer Lee, right? It all depends on if Lee can grow into the weight. If he can, I honestly think he has a very good shot at matching Cael's record. He's that good. If he's mostly done growing, then I think his stature will be prohibitive. On talent alone, he's only rivaled by a few (Snyder, Hall, and that's about it). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
