Buckxell 145 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Drug testing What a cool scene it is during the NCAA finals when a kid wins and runs off the mat, hugs his coaches/parents, then gets ushered away by NCAA drug testing officials for a urine test. They do random testing at the tournament and test the champions. It makes the viewer think wow, the NCAA doesn't mess around and does not tolerate PED's. Seriously, can anyone name ONE person who's tested positive for anything during these tests? Can you name anyone from the tournament that has been disqualified or even reprimanded for a failed drug test? I can not think of one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unbiased 516 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 It's one of the few things the NCAA does right. 3 pamela, NYWRESTLER94 and Pinnum reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,453 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Without USADA style testing, guys will cheat. Knowing when the test will take place makes it very easy to cycle. 5 pamela, TBar1977, LemonPie and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUMike 445 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Without USADA style testing, guys will cheat. Knowing when the test will take place makes it very easy to cycle. And on top of that, they only do urine tests to my knowledge and not blood tests which are more comprehensive (and more expensive as a result). Things like HGH are only detectable through blood. 1 TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 1,131 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Aren't they subject to random testing during the season? I also thought there was no accurate testing available for HGH, but I may not be as up-to-date on this stuff. IMHO, the NFL, NBA, MLB, and olympics are rife with PEDs and they're well-funded and higher profile organizations. If none of them can get it right, we can't expect college wrestling to meet a higher standard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,089 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Drug testing What a cool scene it is during the NCAA finals when a kid wins and runs off the mat, hugs his coaches/parents, then gets ushered away by NCAA drug testing officials for a urine test. They do random testing at the tournament and test the champions. It makes the viewer think wow, the NCAA doesn't mess around and does not tolerate PED's. Seriously, can anyone name ONE person who's tested positive for anything during these tests? Can you name anyone from the tournament that has been disqualified or even reprimanded for a failed drug test? I can not think of one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In my 20 years- I was twice told of violations. Back then they did a little more. I'm not sure either kid placed- I seem to remember one kid hadn't scored any team points. 1 Pinnum reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,848 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Testing is not cheap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckxell 145 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 And on top of that, they only do urine tests to my knowledge and not blood tests which are more comprehensive (and more expensive as a result). Things like HGH are only detectable through blood. So Everyone can be on hgh then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckxell 145 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 In my 20 years- I was twice told of violations. Back then they did a little more. I'm not sure either kid placed- I seem to remember one kid hadn't scored any team points. Can you provide their names, or was that concealed by the NCAA? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,749 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Seriously, can anyone name ONE person who's tested positive for anything during these tests? Can you name anyone from the tournament that has been disqualified or even reprimanded for a failed drug test? I can not think of one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk does refusing to weigh in and thus avoiding the test count? 2 GranbyTroll and Pinnum reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler6 152 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 A D2 champion tested for marijuana in probably 2009-2010 ish Haven't heard of anyone at D1 level. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 454 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 The testing is a joke and a classic example of Cover Your Ass policy. As far as the NCAA is concerned, they're doing an excellent job because their tests routinely show that no one in college wrestling is using PEDs. 1 Buckxell reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerMon 229 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 To me, the biggest joke is being able to dance with a foot out of bounds trying to protect a lead, and getting away with it. 1 vsnej reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 454 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 To me, the biggest joke is being able to dance with a foot out of bounds trying to protect a lead, and getting away with it. Thanks for contributing to the PED discussion. 1 BadgerMon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,089 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Can you provide their names, or was that concealed by the NCAA? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk One was at least 20 years ago the other probably at least 15. I don't remember and don't understand what the names would add to the conversation anyway. It happened. To my memory- they might have stopped this testing for a short while. The phrase I remember being used was Getting blood from a stone. They can't get a lot of urine at the event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerMon 229 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Thanks for contributing to the PED discussion. Kinda felt like it had petered out anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,312 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 A D2 champion tested for marijuana in probably 2009-2010 ish Haven't heard of anyone at D1 level. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is common throughout the season. I think it costs them 25-50% of a season Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 454 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Kinda felt like it had petered out anyway Either way, what are your thoughts on the "two bronze" system that UWW uses in international wrestling? 1 BadgerMon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southend 243 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Indiana had a wrestler, starter, that tested positive for weed about 4 or 5 years ago, during the regular season and was dismissed. I'm sure it is happening but with the privacy laws, never get public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Drug testing What a cool scene it is during the NCAA finals when a kid wins and runs off the mat, hugs his coaches/parents, then gets ushered away by NCAA drug testing officials for a urine test. They do random testing at the tournament and test the champions. It makes the viewer think wow, the NCAA doesn't mess around and does not tolerate PED's. Seriously, can anyone name ONE person who's tested positive for anything during these tests? Can you name anyone from the tournament that has been disqualified or even reprimanded for a failed drug test? I can not think of one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Different sport, but ESPN just reported this week about a basketball player from Arizona State, I think it was, who the NCAA tested positive for PEDs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buckshot1969 589 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Different sport, but ESPN just reported this week about a basketball player from Arizona State, I think it was, who the NCAA tested positive for PEDs. It's different at ASU though, PED stands for "Parties Every Day" there. Edited January 20, 2017 by buckshot1969 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,453 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 And on top of that, they only do urine tests to my knowledge and not blood tests which are more comprehensive (and more expensive as a result). Things like HGH are only detectable through blood.Not to mention they stay far longer in blood Only testing pee is incredibly easy to get around. High schoolers do it when being tested for weed. The current testing is a joke. 1 Buckxell reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,453 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Indiana had a wrestler, starter, that tested positive for weed about 4 or 5 years ago, during the regular season and was dismissed. I'm sure it is happening but with the privacy laws, never get public.So dumb. Who cares if they smoke weed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 563 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Doesn't NCAA realize that this is what a redshirt year is used for? 1 Housebuye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingsland Report post Posted January 20, 2017 So dumb. Who cares if they smoke weed?I wonder if that changes if it is legalized on a federal level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
