lu_alum 690 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) MOISEY WAS A BRIGHT SPOT BUT HE CAME IN A STUD AND DID NOT HAVE THE SAME SUCCESS HIS NEXT YR .Technically, he had slightly better success as a True Soph than he did as a True Frosh, while facing stiffer competition. FR: 32-14, 0.6957 SO: 26-11, 0.7027 The SO year campaign includes his injury default. http://www.wvusports.com/profile.cfm?id=103075&sport=wrestling Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited February 24, 2017 by lu_alum 1 NYWRESTLER94 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACTruck 5 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Im aware of the injury im also aware of his ranking how he came up those rankings as a fresh and how he was dropping in those rankings from the beginning of his sophmore year untill he was injured .Oh please dont make fun of us lol.Not hating on anyone and its a fact simply look at the schedule last yr and the results . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Didn't he beat like 3 or 4 PA state champs in a row at the scuffle last year? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 690 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Im aware of the injury im also aware of his ranking how he came up those rankings as a fresh and how he was dropping in those rankings from the beginning of his sophmore year untill he was injured .Oh please dont make fun of us lol.Not hating on anyone and its a fact simply look at the schedule last yr and the results .Wrong again! RPI is an indication of individual success, while adding a strength of competition factor. Moisey's final RPI ranks when AQs were announced: FR: 19 http://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2015-02-26/ncaa-announces-qualifier-allocations-2015-di-wrestling SO: 14 http://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/images/2016/02/25/wrtop33rpi_feb21.pdf Looks to me like he mathematically had a better Soph campaign. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACTruck 5 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Well of course he did on the rpi but not.in.the rankings he was lower in.those before he got hurt than.where he started he earned his spot making finals.but he did not.keep it .And.Henson pulling rs on.everyone outside 25 is not.as benificial as it is to the lighter weights ..Moores are not happy at getting theirs pulled neither was Flynn panicking and.destroying what could have been.a great team.was coaching and team SUICIDE kids left others like Moores Injured even Moissey with a bad injury and a strength conditioning coach that ran of.ohio and.pa studs wow unreal. Now theres about 4 other things that would get soneone crap canned but hey lets be real WV has had enough problems.with coaches and.I like a lot of.kids ON that team.. GOOD LUCK TO Them all Sammy Nick Felix all of them.Sammys boys are certainly improving as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACTruck 5 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 11 losses following an Ncaa finals appearance sorry even at closing time sat that doesnt look better to most of us . Like I said he came in a stud made finals hope he does again hes a cool person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 595 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Well of course he did on the rpi but not.in.the rankings he was lower in.those before he got hurt than.where he started he earned his spot making finals.but he did not.keep it .And.Henson pulling rs on.everyone outside 25 is not.as benificial as it is to the lighter weights ..Moores are not happy at getting theirs pulled neither was Flynn panicking and.destroying what could have been.a great team.was coaching and team SUICIDE kids left others like Moores Injured even Moissey with a bad injury and a strength conditioning coach that ran of.ohio and.pa studs wow unreal. Now theres about 4 other things that would get soneone crap canned but hey lets be real WV has had enough problems.with coaches and.I like a lot of.kids ON that team.. GOOD LUCK TO Them all Sammy Nick Felix all of them.Sammys boys are certainly improving as well. Always nice to see a disgruntled parent airing dirty laundry on social media, and then wishing the team luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACTruck 5 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Dirty laundy lol thats all the clean stuff pal.Not disgruntled at all not to happy for the wasted time or lie after lie but hey life moves on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerfan9311 223 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) All this talk of lies, here and about the VT situation, reminds of my days in the car business. In sales and finance we had to choose our words very carefully, knowing that the saying the wrong thing could cost us if any dispute ever got to court, so the good ones become professionals in the art of psychological warfare. I can't count the number of times people would complain that they were "lied" to, but I KNOW they were not because we did this daily and used a very carefully worded script. artfully uttered, when the timing was just right. Bottom line, people hear what they want to hear, regardless of what is actually said. Human psychology blurs the lines and makes inferences and implications indistiinguishable from verbatim dialogue. I suspect there is quite a similarity between sales/customer relationships and admin/athlete ones. Customers and athletes feel are convinced they were lied to. Admin and sales pros KNOW that their words were extremely carefully chosen to project the desired implication without actually saying it. Defining "lying" then becomes very murky. Ask Bill Clinton. P.S. I got out of that business despite the lucrative paydays and never looked back. Edited February 24, 2017 by tigerfan9311 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 535 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Dirty laundy lol thats all the clean stuff pal.Not disgruntled at all not to happy for the wasted time or lie after lie but hey life moves on. Clearly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuckFor2 176 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 So WV Mudflap goes from no punctuation to punctuating every other word? 😂😂 Sent from my SM-T230NU using Tapatalk 1 Buckxell reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 690 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 11 losses following an Ncaa finals appearance sorry even at closing time sat that doesnt look better to most of us . Like I said he came in a stud made finals hope he does again hes a cool person. Holding an unseeded True Frosh surprise finalist to the same standard is somewhat unrealistic. Perhaps he is a tournament specialist - kind of like Youtsey. Keep in mind he did not have the opportunity to repeat his NCAA results as a Soph. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 535 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Customers and athletes feel are convinced they were lied to. Admin and sales pros KNOW that their words were extremely carefully chosen to project the desired implication without actually saying it. Defining "lying" then becomes very murky. Ask Bill Clinton. Defining "lying" is easy. Interpreting and applying repercussions are "murky". Clinton lied, period. The media saved him like they do all liberals. As far as this and VT go, I'm sure they are different and individual based on each athlete, which makes it impossible for any of us to fairly judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 535 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 So WV Mudflap goes from no punctuation to punctuating every other word? Sent from my SM-T230NU using Tapatalk KMF was reel smart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,071 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Defining "lying" is easy. Interpreting and applying repercussions are "murky". Clinton lied, period. The media saved him like they do all liberals. As far as this and VT go, I'm sure they are different and individual based on each athlete, which makes it impossible for any of us to fairly judge. Pretty confident you are going to lose an argument if you are trying to claim liberals are the liars, given who our president is... Also why is it necessary to bring in politics? 1 KCMO2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACTruck 5 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Well if I say lying I mean a coach says he will do one thing and does not do it or does another or the opposite.Most people are happy with the truth I see no need for coaches to be able to get away with it for the heck of it or because its expected and then have people throw a pity party for them when it all blows up in their face. Edited February 24, 2017 by MACTruck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dutchcountry7 26 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Well if I say lying I mean a coach says he will do one thing and does not do it or does another or the opposite.Most people are happy with the truth I see no need for coaches to be able to get away with it for the heck of it or because its expected and then have people throw a pity party for them when it all blows up in their face. You're going to have to provide some information here. Otherwise I just think you're whining. Coach says one thing and does another? Like saying he will take the team to Applebees on a road trip and switching it to Cracker Barrel? 1 Plasmodium reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlw028 106 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 what the heck ever happened to him??!! I think he got busted for jailbreaking fire sticks and is doing 2-5. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 535 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Pretty confident you are going to lose an argument if you are trying to claim liberals are the liars, given who our president is... Also why is it necessary to bring in politics? Tigerfan brought it up Housebye. I'm just stating the facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nom 796 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 I can't read half the posts on this thread. What the hell happened to writing clearly, with punctuation and sentences? 5 JBluegill133, LoStNuMbEr, PapaBearSLIM and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoopdown 446 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 I can't read half the posts on this thread. What the hell happened to writing clearly, with punctuation and sentences? It's about West Virginia? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 PapaBearSLIM, smcfee and nom reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 545 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 It's about West Virginia? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Now that was funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 545 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 I can't read half the posts on this thread. What the hell happened to writing clearly, with punctuation and sentences? That guy's on more than one message board and his grammatical skills are sometimes a bit interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACTruck 5 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 You're going to have to provide some information here. Otherwise I just think you're whining. Coach says one thing and does another? Like saying he will take the team to Applebees on a road trip and switching it to Cracker Barrel? Could really care less about the thread other than a holes knocking my kid I would have never bothered to post .If you think im whining oh well theres a reason everyone left there must be a lot of whiners its a shame all the kids liked the school and each other no one liked a couple people they had to deal with the unorganisation ot the fake hard ass attitudes they had to deal with no one wants to see a team in turmoil so no one would tell any truth but if everyone leaves including half the coaching staff it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know the problem is not with those leaving . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 595 Report post Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Could really care less about the thread other than a holes knocking my kid I would have never bothered to post .If you think im whining oh well theres a reason everyone left there must be a lot of whiners its a shame all the kids liked the school and each other no one liked a couple people they had to deal with the unorganisation ot the fake hard ass attitudes they had to deal with no one wants to see a team in turmoil so no one would tell any truth but if everyone leaves including half the coaching staff it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know the problem is not with those leaving . You really need to just stop posting on social media. As a long time Mizzou supporter, they don't need you talking crap on other schools and embarrassing their program. I like your kid and I think he's a good addition to the team. You on the other hand have been an internet embarrassment every since your kid was in high school. Edited February 25, 2017 by KCMO2 3 meluvwrestling, rd149 and websterk149 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites