SetonHallPirate 990 Report post Posted April 18, 2017 http://www.broncosports.com/genrel/041817aaa.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted April 18, 2017 More Chicken Shiz than BYU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 432 Report post Posted April 18, 2017 Another one bites the dust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 179 Report post Posted April 18, 2017 That sucks. And this could have a cascade effect in the Pac-12 given how small they already are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted April 18, 2017 Is there a way to stop this like at Cleveland State a few years ago? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uphillBronco 4 Report post Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) There isn't enough money here in Boise to stop this. Even ASU would have been gone for good had it now been for the big money booster. It's no secret around here that the BSU President is a big baseball fan. Once Randall was fired it was fairly clear that the AD and President were watching to see if the community would rally round the new coaching staff to see if the funding could be raise to make the facility improvements without university help. I'm not 100% positive but I believe the admin found out that wrestling couldn't support itself and they knew they weren't going to support anything but baseball moving forward. Edited April 18, 2017 by uphillBronco Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatdane67 217 Report post Posted April 18, 2017 This is terrible for wrestling. Feel for Mendoza. Leaves Bakersfield after 6 years to jump into this disaster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CB 91 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 This sucks. I feel bad for the coaches and kids. Weak AD with an affinity towards baseball does this to the program. This is like Oregon's Pat 'Killwrestling' part II. A disgrace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 371 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 Not much to say other than, I'm bummed. With another program going under, it means one less opportunity for kids in this part of the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21guns 95 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 I got blasted for the world to see on Flo today by Christian and Willie, and even I don't care about that. THIS, has got me bummed out big time. This has been a bad day man. NOT me, but another school dropping this mysterious, intense, and fantastic sport. 1 simple reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornercoach 448 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 .... darn shame- hardnose athletes- know a guy that had Boise wrestlers back to back years in the blood round, and won both years- they were darn tough competitors.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmdband 12 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 College baseball is about the most inefficient sport there is in terms of money. This is particularly ironic in a era where universities and colleges are scrambling for money. Baseball requires a huge high maintenance facility, tons of extremely expensive equipment, and does NOT have a great following in the vast majority of states. I remember reading a story in a publication stating that baseball is a major money loser in nearly every college. In addition, there will be big Title IX issues where militant women activists will be screaming for equal scholarships and investment. What an incredibly STUPID decision. This is a classic example of an athletic director that has no clue and is not suited for the job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Missourimatman 52 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 SEC baseball is pretty big and only four programs break even. The median loss for college baseball programs is more than $500,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,262 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 In Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Montana and Idaho there is one extant D1 program. Its sparse as hell out here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dabrockster 38 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 Here are the Boise State Admin emails - let them know why Boise State has made a huge mistake cancelling wrestling. Not sure if anything can be done to change the decision but they should be held accountable and hear opinions. President Bob Kustra president@boisestate.edu Athletic Director Curt Apsey capsey@boisestate.edu Assistant AD Bob Carney robertcarney@boisestate.edu Media Relations Joe Nickell joenickell@boisestate.edu Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 silver-medal and NYWRESTLER94 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glane18 73 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 They announced the signing of Gaxiola yesterday (who wrestled at Buchanan hs and transferred from Cal Baptist), which was literally one day before they dropped the program. WTF? Sucks that Randal and those guys went from such a high in the program to such a low and left Boise in shambles, then Mendoza goes over there to rebuild and it gets dropped after a year. Crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 689 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 Boise Wrestling: 1. No fans 2. No spectators at home meets 3. Money loser 4. No media exposure 5. No alumni financial support 6. Traveling expenses high Why would an AD want to keep a sport that only wrestling maniacs are interested in? BTW, us wrestling maniacs are starting to die off. We need to listen to Wade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redblades 322 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 Why would an AD want to keep a sport that only wrestling maniacs are interested in? BTW, us wrestling maniacs are starting to die off. We need to listen to Wade. Cue Frank Rizzo: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISUChip 69 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 1. No fans 2. No spectators at home meets 3. Money loser 4. No media exposure 5. No alumni financial support 6. Traveling expenses high This list can be used for many non-revenue sports at many institutions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dutchcountry7 26 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 But the NCAA championships get 16,000 people to attend. Doesn't Boise State know how amazing that is? All is well people. /s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 Damn shame. They had a top 10 team for awhile. Ultimately all the schools where wrestling can't support itself will drop the program. Hopefully the schools on the edge will be able to find a sugar daddy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 689 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 This list can be used for many non-revenue sports at many institutions. There may be 5 colleges where income from ticket sales surpass the expense of maintaining a team. 😡 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 Well, who says we need universities? There's karate clubs, judo clubs, ju-jitsu clubs. Wrestling will never die. 1 Tofurky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichB 227 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 College baseball is about the most inefficient sport there is in terms of money. This is particularly ironic in a era where universities and colleges are scrambling for money. Baseball requires a huge high maintenance facility, tons of extremely expensive equipment, and does NOT have a great following in the vast majority of states. I remember reading a story in a publication stating that baseball is a major money loser in nearly every college. In addition, there will be big Title IX issues where militant women activists will be screaming for equal scholarships and investment. What an incredibly STUPID decision. This is a classic example of an athletic director that has no clue and is not suited for the job. I would think baseball and wrestling rosters are pretty similar. Boise already has W Softball ------------------------------------------------ How many of the remaining programs are not 100%, or near 100% endowed? (yeah I know about Notre Dame - I doubt that will happen again) . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zander 13 Report post Posted April 19, 2017 I don't even know what to say. I just had an email conversation with Coach Mendoza a couple days ago and we were talking about the recruits they had coming in the fall like #8 ranked Heavyweight Kevin Vough and others, and how the rebuilding of the program was really taking shape. And then this happens ... I feel terrible for Coaches Mendoza and Orozco who uprooted themselves and their families from California and gave everything they had to BSU wrestling. I feel terrible for the athletes who just wanted to follow their dreams to compete at the D1 college level and are having the rug pulled out from under them. And I feel terrible for the recruits that committed to wrestle for Boise State (several in just the last week) who are now going to have to completely change their plans. And I'm really going to miss going to dual meets and seeing some incredible wrestling. When I moved to Idaho 17 years ago, I knew that Boise State had a D1 wrestling program because I'd seen Kirk White win a national championship on tv the year before, and I thought I'd check it out. The first home dual meet of the season was against #1 ranked Minnesota and I thought that would be pretty cool. I really had no idea what to expect. There were about 1200 fans packed up to the rafters of the Old Bronco Gym. It was possibly the most exciting sporting event I've ever attended. Even going up against the #1 team in the nation the Boise State wrestlers were fearless and gave it everything they had, and they won 4 out of 10 matches that night. The best match was at 174 pounds with BSU's Pat Owens vs. #15 ranked Kraft. Owens was a freshman but he'd spent 4 years in the Marines greco program and was tough. Owens went out and thrashed Kraft from one end of the mat to the other and in the third period Owens dumped Kraft hard out of bounds. The crowd was going nuts, and Kraft actually refused to get back up and finish the match until J Robinson literally went over and growled at him. It was clear that Kraft feared Coach J a lot more than his opponent. Quite a night. 3 silver-medal, NYWRESTLER94 and rstrong reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites