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You could see it on the broadcast and read about it in a few threads here on the boards, but what are the ideal cities to host a WTT tournament? What is the ideal size of a venue to host the WTT? Was the Devaney Center too big (nearly 8,000 seats) or was Lincoln the wrong place for the WTT? Size-wise, are collegiate facilities more appropriate for this event or can it be pushed to commercial venues?

 

 

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The Devaney Center configuration, to me, was about perfect for size of the arena in a freestyle-only format. One set of bleachers wasn't pulled out because that's where the head table was, so subtract some seats there. Some of the upper end zones weren't filled. I think that's the right size until it gets too big, but USAW coaching staffs tend to change their trials needs based on what they want for training, etc. 

 

Lincoln, to me, was a fantastic place for the event. 

 

Since I've been covering the World Team Trials, here are the locations. 

 

2005: Hilton Coliseum, Ames -- first year of the crap rules, I flew there from Virginia, making it a tad tough to go from Newport News to Ames. I remember it being cavernous. 

2006: Sioux City, Iowa - Great venue, just no one was there. It was also bloody hot IIRC.

2007: Las Vegas, Nev. - Held along with the Grappling World Team Trials. The Convention Center is somewhat sterile. This is what makes me thing people say they're going to go Vegas for events, but in actuality, they really don't. (Also CKLV proves this point)

2009-2010: Council Bluffs, Iowa -- Across the river from Omaha and easier to get to than Lincoln with a very good CVB. No one showed up. Maybe 1-2K people. Good venue, casino next door. Bad ball draw rules still in effect.

2011: Oklahoma City - Cael's comeback did pick the crowd up some, but that one was the biggest in attendance in my memory until this year. Was in an older arena, decent place to hold it in conjunction with Hall of Fame weekend.

2013: Stillwater - Missed this one due to my daughter's first birthday. Watched online. Defer to anyone with first-hand experience there.

2014-2015: Madison - I thought this was a great location with a good enough facility, but didn't have that flavor. Crowds were lighter than I'd expected. 

2014 Greco: Daytona Beach - Held with Cadet Duals. 

 

 

One thing I believe that really helped the event in Lincoln was the on-site technology. This is a Big Ten venue with a video board to match. Intimate style of arena when you can get right on top of the action. 

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The crowds were good in Stillwater, but the video board was extremely small and old time resolution.  It was useless for fans to truly give an evaluation of the replay.

 

Until Jordan moves on, and maybe James, Lincoln is an ideal venue for this event.  They set the standard high.  I have been to OKC, Stillwater, Las Vegas, and Lincoln for WTT events.

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One thing I believe that really helped the event in Lincoln was the on-site technology..

If this contributed to Flo's great performance this weekend, they should leave it in Lincoln until another venue can prove they can do the same.

 

 

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From the presentation side, they (Flo) were hitting their marks well. From what I saw on the overhead views, their transitions and production was on point. I didn't hear any commentary and my comments about the on-site technology weren't about Flo, rather the fan and staff experience inside the facility. The big screen was huge, sightlines were good and their music team and back of the house people nailed it. 

 

I can't tell you if any of that had to do with the stream. I'd have to believe they had decent bandwidth (I was connected on their network, but never thought to run a speed test). And sadly, more people watch college wrestling than international styles, so who knows if the #'s of viewers played a role either. This weekend should be their benchmark moving forward. 

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i was at ames and council bluffs. ames was cavernous, b/c NO ONE was there. 

I could not believe the small crowds.

I have to say council bluffs had more but my view point was different..i was working not being a fan...

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JB, do you have an account of the attendance for the event this year?

 

I know we live in an age where you don't need to leave your sofa to watch just about anything, but does USAW place a premium on event attendance?

 

Could moving the WTT/OTT to cities such as Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, San Jose, New York, etc. make for more interest in the event?

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The World Team Trials, as good as the action is, has never sniffed the crowds they deserve. As far as the locations, you can't put these events in places that don't want them. This was an event for Lincoln, sometimes you lose something when you go bigger. Want them there? Call your CVB and get them involved.

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No data to back this up, but I would tend to think that college towns would do better. The majority of wrestling fans in our country appear to be college fans first. Then as their favorite college athletes begin competing on the senior level, they may direct some interest there.  I like the idea of having it in smaller venues on college campuses. Lincoln was amazing, but it was the first one I had been to so I have nothing to compare it to.

 

I would also tend to believe that Madison, Columbus, and Iowa City would do well and of course you got to believe that an event in Rec Hall would be popular.  The thing with Lincoln, was that not only was the venue awesome, downtown Lincoln was amazing as well. Not too big but with plenty to do and you are not spread out.

 

Just my $.02

-Brando 

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4,106 first session

4,622 second session

 

Thank you, Jason.

 

CVB?

 

I agree with you that the WTT/OTT don't draw the most attention, as well as they can't be in places where people don't want them. It does make me wonder if it went to place like Chicago, Illinois (the second largest wrestling state in the country, the third largest city in a five county region with a population of more than 9,000,000 residents, not including the always-string and faithful Iowa contingent and other out-of-state visitors), how wrestling couldn't fill a place like the UIC Pavilion (9,000 capacity) or even the Sears Centre (11,000 capacity).

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Love that local fans got a real treat seeing JB and James Green make the WT. I can imagine the event doing well in the future in cities like CHA, Columbus, State College, Ithaca, Stillwater, etc. where home fans might actually have some skin in the game.

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