AllISeeIsBronze 65 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 The hate is ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling 1,123 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 Again, Speculation City.... If you're referring to my post, I disagree with the "Speculation City" characterization. I merely said I wondered what would have happened had Pico landed his right first. Now, if I'd claimed that right would have knocked Freeman out (or resulted in some other outcome), that would have been pure speculation, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medicine_Man 877 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 I speculate Pico's debut was about as devastating to his MMA career as Mark Hall's NCAA debut. 3 GranbyTroll, HurricaneWrestling and Yellow_Medal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paboom 204 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 Look, I hate to kick a man when he's down, but Pico's team has done him disservice after disservice. They've now put the cart before the horse in two different sports and have nothing to show for it. Nobody, and I mean nobody, fights a guy who's 8-2 and a head taller in their very first professional fight on a PPV card in Madison Square Garden. I have no idea what the thought process was booking that fight, but Pico had absolutely no business being put in that kind of situation. Couldn't agree more with this. It just seems he is over rushing his entire career. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,790 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) I speculate Pico's debut was about as devastating to his MMA career as Mark Hall's NCAA debut.The two are no where near the same thing. The scale of losing a debut college wrestling match vs losing a debut MMA fight are on two completely different levels. This loss for Pico completely changes who his next fight will be as well as the payout/marketing of the match. Hall's loss only really hurt his pride(maybe fueled his motivation) as well as his perceived ranking within a ranking system that quite honestly means little other than things for wrestling folk to talk about. Edited June 26, 2017 by BigTenFanboy 1 TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,077 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 The two are no where near the same thing. The scale of losing a debut college wrestling match vs losing a debut MMA fight are on two completely different levels. This loss for Pico completely changes who his next fight will be as well as the payout/marketing of the match. Hall's loss only really hurt his pride(maybe fueled his motivation) as well as his perceived ranking within a ranking system that quite honestly means little other than things for wrestling folk to talk about. Also, Mark Hall got another bout the next day or the next week. MMA fighters have to wait months to rebound. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,533 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) You can bet Pico's bundlers care about the result. Their next big payday got pushed back. EDIT: Anyone who bet on Pico probably also cared about the outcome. Edited June 26, 2017 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medicine_Man 877 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 The two are no where near the same thing. The scale of losing a debut college wrestling match vs losing a debut MMA fight are on two completely different levels. This loss for Pico completely changes who his next fight will be as well as the payout/marketing of the match. Hall's loss only really hurt his pride(maybe fueled his motivation) as well as his perceived ranking within a ranking system that quite honestly means little other than things for wrestling folk to talk about. Not comparing losses, speculating on career after loss. This is, after all, "Speculation City." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,790 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) I speculate Pico's debut was about as devastating to his MMA career as Mark Hall's NCAA debut. Not comparing losses, speculating on career after loss. This is, after all, "Speculation City."speculating, but not comparing eh even though you do a directly compare the two in your initial post? Anyways. I "speculate" that this loss has had a direct impact on Pico's next fight, his position in rankings that actually matter, his overall payout potentional, his overall marketability as a fighter, and his position on the card. I speculate this loss has a pretty negative impact on his career. On another note, I "speculate" Mark Hall's first loss in Carver Arena was just a blemish on his record. Actually may have been a good thing as it may have served as a learning experience, while have ZERO impact on his position in rankings, or seedings at both B1G's and NCAA's. Edited June 26, 2017 by BigTenFanboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,835 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 Aaron Glass Jaw Pico Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,605 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 Aaron Glass Jaw PicoDidn't get knocked out on the punch, just knocked down, so maybe a little pre mature for that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,175 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 In MMA, Fools rush in. It's hard to imagine everyone didn't learn the lesson of Jose Aldo when he got iced running strait forward, but here we are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 The hate is ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopher_fan_90 41 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) The highlight from all of this will be when Pico gets ready for his next flight, and FloWrestling starts covering it again. (Which I have no problem with) The board will then have 30 pages on "why is this kid still relevant" Edited June 28, 2017 by gopher_fan_90 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,533 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 The highlight from all of this will be when Pico gets ready for his next flight, and FloWrestling starts covering it again. (Which I have no problem with) The board will then have 30 pages on "why is this kid still relevant" They will give him someone he can't lose to in his next go round. The next guy won't be ranked 10th in Kansas-Missouri, he'll be ranked 10th in Gnome, Alaska. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,604 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 I'd pay to view Pico vs Tbar. 1 nyum reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyum 241 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 They will give him someone he can't lose to in his next go round. The next guy won't be ranked 10th in Kansas-Missouri, he'll be ranked 10th in Gnome, Alaska. Give it a rest already. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 AllISeeIsBronze reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRGuy 37 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 Agreed, how many 20 year olds get the opportunity to lose consciousness in a ppv fight at MSG? every wrestling fan who hyped his leaving wrestling gave wrestling a black eye people dont think anything more of wrestlers when the wonder kid gets beat on the mat like this by some nobody Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alwayswrestling 227 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 Pico's handlers made a huge mistake by putting him on the fast track with no doubt. The hype on him in wrestling was to much and the MMA hype was completely crazy. Anyone that bought has very little knowledge of the sport. The ones ding the hyping are looking for payback of their investment. JMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRGuy 37 Report post Posted June 29, 2017 pico is a golden glove boxer they said http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20170626102926_1DX_2372.JPG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
