hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 I don't know if I am the first but I am calling it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 oops, Zain! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 617 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) Mr. blind squirrel, he was gifted a spot on the team when JO got bounced. He'll be extremely luck to medal. No chance he'll win. Edited June 27, 2017 by KCMO2 2 spladle08 and SC_Wrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 537 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 That'll be awesome if Zain can run the table but 65kg is usually very deep in talent. Land mines everywhere. Looking forward to seeing who's in this bracket at World's. Heard Ramonov was injured so maybe we finally see Bekbulatov represent Russia at the World Championships. Anyway, as always, should be a fun and loaded bracket. Hammer - hope your prediction comes true. :D 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 My prediction is Zain wins a world level medal at some point. I don't believe he's good enough to win at present time. 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 360 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 Well I would certainly like to see the Zain Train win it all. I would also like to know how and who he is training with, is he going head to head with Franklin Gomez and others, Novachkov? Will we will see him wrestling in an event in July? If so, does Zain knocks off a few tough customers? Let's say that he is training with Gomez, and maybe others that Cael is bringing in for him, and he does go to a Tournament in July that has some big names in it and he pounds them, all of which is great, but I still think he will need a decent draw and a little luck, come Paris. As far as being gifted the spot, I think that is a little over the top. Remember JO won on a correct throw call, which might not have even been made by another, (if not most referees). Also there is this whole question about JO's Positive test. I don't know what he tested positive for or why, and if it was an innocent mistake, I feel sorry or JO. However, if it wasn't a mistake and was purposeful, then perhaps JO was the one to "gift" Zain the spot. 1 Peso reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 Mr. blind squirrel, he was gifted a spot on the team when JO got bounced. He'll be extremely luck to medal. No chance he'll win. First of all, I am glad there is someone on this forum cool enough to crap on someone for making a bold prediction. I think he is gonna be a multiple world champ. He improves constantly, his style is air tight, and its gonna translate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,988 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 Glad to hear that you will be watching your first international freestyle tournament. 5 irani, scribe, cjc007 and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chingadiculous 155 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 Let's wait and see how he fares in Madrid before we start making bold predictions. I am pretty sure DT is giving him great pointers on how to succesfully navigate the gauntlet that is the Spanish Grand Prix. 5 Coach_J, Witherman, spladle08 and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mostTD 33 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 According to Flo some of the studs have cleared out of this weight (and 57 as well). How about Novachkov, Gomez, Habat, and Zain all in the same bracket? Pretty cool. I think Team USA should consider throwing a little support to Samoa, Guam, and the Virgin Islands. Pack the bracket with Yanks??? Zain's got a puncher's chance at a medal no doubt in my mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,189 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 I would love to see it (but I doubt it happens this year) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,397 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 World championships the year after an Olympics is always a little thinned out. Zain is brand new on the senior international scene. Not saying he's going to win it, but this is a combination that has produced pleasant surprises for the US in the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chingadiculous 155 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 World championships the year after an Olympics is always a little thinned out. Zain is brand new on the senior international scene. Not saying he's going to win it, but this is a combination that has produced pleasant surprises for the US in the past. A Jake Herbert one hit wonder silver medal? 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,397 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 One example... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopher_fan_90 41 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 Mr. blind squirrel, he was gifted a spot on the team when JO got bounced. He'll be extremely luck to medal. No chance he'll win. Or perhaps JO benefited from the extra help he was getting, I've never bought the whole "it happened by accident" excuse given by athletes. Even if it might be possibly true, it is the job of the athlete, trainer, and agent to know exactly what is going in your body. That being said, I agree that Zain will not medal. I don't think his style will translate well to the international guys, I see Zain having a similar career as Metcalf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin 1,453 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) wow...Zain represents Penn state. From penn state a long time there were no champions! I hope he will win first match! this guy waits for him! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkX9SnCv9Q Edited June 28, 2017 by Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin 6 tbert, Yellow_Medal, HurricaneWrestling and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 Glad to hear that you will be watching your first international freestyle tournament. I've been to worlds 3 times, how about yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 733 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 Obviously hes not going to win the title but given the right draw and coming out on the right side of a few close matches he could medal. 2 things: dont give too much credit to beating Molinaro (who he sees in the room daily and basically only has a High-C he suprises opponents with once a match. ) And rememebr he has 2 domestic.losses in the last few months to JO and Molinaro, neither of which id give favorable odds to medal. Of course Id love to have another gold brought to the states but realistically...... And dont jump on people who highlight how unlikely your "bold prediction" is. When you offer up anything as a thread youre asking for dialouge and its what you got. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I didn't mind people saying its unlikely, someone calling me mr blind squirrel implies that he isn't going to give me credit even if my prediction is correct. You can't get much more obnoxious than that. Edited June 28, 2017 by hammerlockthree 1 Alwayswrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 733 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 I see your side, but you have to admit if it hits ( he wins) there was no skill/analysis done on your part and the skill level/depth at this weight makes it a real crap-shoot (id be impressed if anyone picked the champ ahead of time and actually stuck $$$$ on it) . I'll give you kudos for "boldly" picking it but I wont be amazed in any sense.... dont be surprised if a "I really enjoyed the Retherford world champion Era" thread.. pops up after round 1. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 I won't, but I am basing my pick on something and its his style. They guy controls matches unbelievably, he is never in any positions he doesn't control, and it negates his lack of experience. Thats what I am betting on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 733 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Are you familiar with the other guys who traditionally do well at the weight? Chamizo, Asgarov, Gomez, Ramonov, Novachkov etc?. I dont know who of that list are competing at worlds. Im just curious of your knowledge of international opposition. I know Asgarov had some doping issues so im sure he's out, but the rest should be in play. And tough... so so tough Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Edited June 28, 2017 by spladle08 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 560 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 I just hope he gets enough matches to learn something from the trip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 a lot of guys are out of the weight so he could get several wins but I don't see him scoring a point against someone like bekbulatov. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie 727 Report post Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I won't, but I am basing my pick on something and its his style. They guy controls matches unbelievably, he is never in any positions he doesn't control, and it negates his lack of experience. Thats what I am betting on. Don't mind you making the prediction, but I think you're just wrong here. What have you seen that makes you think Zain has an "air-tight" style? IMO his main strength are his pace, he fights important positions hard, and he has heavy hands. Problem is I think he can be scored on in a number of ways, and unfamiliar styles might cause him problems. Not to put too much stock into an exhibition, but his BTS match showed a lot of openings. The most encouraging thing is that he seems to be making rapid adjustments form folk -> free. Who knows, maybe he stays on a steep trajectory and shocks us at World's. Doesn't seem likely though. Edited June 28, 2017 by steamboat_charlie 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
