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What Makes Illinois So Good At FS/GR

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#1 CoachWrestling


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:21 PM

Not a knock on their folk style abilities, because they have top notch wrestling there no doubt, but I would put PA and Ohio ahead of them in folkstyle by a fair margin and they seem to dominate freestyle/Greco. What is it?



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Posted 22 July 2017 - 11:21 PM

The studs in Illinois are willing to participate in JR Nationals. That can't be said about some of the othe states.

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 12:50 AM

The top programs (OPRF/Washington/Montini) are all big on the Olympic styles. So you get all of their studs, plus all of the kids and who want to be like their studs.

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 04:26 AM

The "Big 3" Greco states (Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota) have clubs and coaches that emphasize the classic style.  Look for Nebraska to join those ranks soon with Zac Dominguez at the helm.  It's just a big deal in Illinois, kind of hard to explain, but it's been that way for a LONG time.  Depending on how you look at it, there aren't too many spring-sport athletes who dominate IL high school wrestling lately (There are kids like Jessen who are great football players, but Spring is FS/GR season).  The mentality is "High school, then FS/GR season", and it's like that in middle schools as well.  You wrestle for your middle school, then your club for a couple months after.

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 07:47 AM

They also enter 3 times as many wrestlers as anybody else.  I think they had over 80 entries in jr fs.

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 10:09 AM

They also enter 3 times as many wrestlers as anybody else.  I think they had over 80 entries in jr fs.


If you are complimenting/pointing out their high participation, that is correct.  However, Fargo only unofficially "scores" AA finishes, so if another state like New Hampshire or Arkansas took 80 kids to Fargo and none placed, they wouldn't have any points.  IL wins junior duals, in both styles, damn near annually, and there are the same # of guys in all teams' lineup in a dual meet.  They just have FS/GR figured out and are better than everyone else by a large margin.

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 02:11 AM

Illinois...and other states that have success have a few things going


Coaches and kids support and emphasize Olympic styles

Coaches and kids take pride as a state and individually in winning events like duals and Fargo

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:44 AM

Could proximity to Fargo be a factor?

Getting kids (and their families) to focus on training for a big national event within driving distance is probably a little easier to manage. Most of Illinois is within a 12 hour drive.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:23 AM

The same thing that makes them not so good at folkstyle...time spent working on the style.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 01:07 PM

Considering that most outdoorsey types of things are controlled in the state moreso than other states; 


Considering that their winters are a slight variant of Minnesota; 


Considering that aside from Chicago proper, the rest of the state is pretty much like the rest of the Midwest (ahem... to heck with Chicago, except for La Bamba on Halsted)


Considering that Illinois has some VERY good coaches, mentors, alumni...


I'd say that... 

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 03:51 AM

....and apparently have the dust in the bank to send a large federation

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 03:59 AM

Illinois folkstyle at VA Beach Duals. The IL Outsiders shut out the NJ Shore Thing in the round of 16. Not bad in a style they do not work very hard at.

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 02:41 AM

In IL kids train freestyle/greco from March thru Fargo theyve tournaments every weekend Fri night Greco and Sat Freestyle with 4 man RR brackets

Not many of IL stud  seniors were at Fargo this year   

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