Who could have beaten Cael in college?

[KTG119 820]

If I remember he had some close ones with Cormier, so I'm not sure "trashed" is really fair to DC.  But still, the general point still stands.  Cael is the GOAT folkstyler.

here's what I could find for DC and Cael head to head: 20-9, 8-4, 14-3, 10-2, 8-3, 8-4.  

[VakAttack 4,015]

here's what I could find for DC and Cael head to head: 20-9, 8-4, 14-3, 10-2, 8-3, 8-4.

Huh. If those are the scores, my memory failed me. That's some trashing.

 

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[WillieBoy 713]

I think Greg Strobel would have given him trouble.

Asked Bobby Douglas about Cael and Mark Schultz and Bobby was of the opinion Cael would be too fast for Mark. Both on takedowns and on the mat.

 

Asked Dan Gable about Cael during Sanderson's senior year and Dan said he could think of two guys who might beat Cael but did not name them. He did say it would be a tossup at best and the guys were not current College wrestlers.

 

Cael had trouble with Damien Hahn and his slowdown game. Tie-ups, holding and stalling. Still won but it was the closest match he had. Don't remember another match in his career that was as close. Do know Cael did not like those who were maulers and especially referees who let them get away with it rather than clean wrestling.

 

Cael's ankle pick was the slickest move since John Smith's Low Single. Both were tough competitors who used setups to get in with beautiful timing on an opponent.

[KTG119 820]

I think Greg Strobel would have given him trouble.

Asked Bobby Douglas about Cael and Mark Schultz and Bobby was of the opinion Cael would be too fast for Mark. Both on takedowns and on the mat.

 

Asked Dan Gable about Cael during Sanderson's senior year and Dan said he could think of two guys who might beat Cael but did not name them. He did say it would be a tossup at best and the guys were not current College wrestlers.

 

Cael had trouble with Damien Hahn and his slowdown game. Tie-ups, holding and stalling. Still won but it was the closest match he had. Don't remember another match in his career that was as close. Do know Cael did not like those who were maulers and especially referees who let them get away with it rather than clean wrestling.

 

Cael's ankle pick was the slickest move since John Smith's Low Single. Both were tough competitors who used setups to get in with beautiful timing on an opponent.

Vertus Jones also gave a him a 1 pt match and then Cael throttled him next time they wrestled. Also iirc the match with Hahn was at an early season tourney with 6 minute matches.

[KTG119 820]

Cael's matches (most of 'em anyway)

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/stories/2002-03-20-cover-table.htm

Edited July 24, 2017 by KTG119

[hammerlockthree 2,635]

If we're giving out awards, would Dake receive "the greatest folkstyle defense of all time?"

 

how about stingiest wrestler of all time? I think Dake could claim that one. 

 

You can't really claim greatest defense because there have beeb guys like askren and randy lewis whose defense got them most of their points. 

Edited July 24, 2017 by hammerlockthree

[KTG119 820]

how about stingiest wrestler of all time? I think Dake could claim that one. 

 

You can't really claim greatest defense because there have beeb guys like askren and randy lewis whose defense got them most of their points. 

think I counted 10 shut outs at NCAAs and maybe 3 other dec wins where he gave up only 1 pt. not sure anyone can beat Dake here.

 

edit-looked a little closer. Dake had 16 NCAA tourney wins that were by dec. gave up a total of 12 points in those 16 wins (10 shut outs, 3 where he gave up 1, 1 where he gave up 2, 1 where he gave up 3, 1 where he gave up 4). pretty crazy... 

Edited July 24, 2017 by KTG119

[TBar1977 4,532]

I'm sure everyone here has watched Cael teaching his ankle pick set ups either at a camp or thru video. I think a pretty good athlete who gets into top shape and masters his set ups would be very difficult to defend against.

Edited July 24, 2017 by TBar1977

[hammerlockthree 2,635]

You are such a tool...

[TBar1977 4,532]

You are such a tool...

Your screen name is a tool, tool. You need to think your insults thru a little better, numbnuts.

[headshuck 2,604]

Your screen name is a tool, tool. You need to think your insults thru a little better, numbnuts.

I don't get it. I think Hammerlock/3/three for the past decade has been named after...

 

 

Tbar might be thinking this?

 

Edited July 25, 2017 by headshuck

[preceptor 19]

I made the list. I remember losing to him and throwing temper tantrum. I was a bit of a brawler and he majored me and I didn't even feel like I'd wrestled a match. I was a sophomore and I told my coach I couldn't believe I lost to a freshman. My coach told me that, that freshman is pretty good.

 

Cael's matches (most of 'em anyway)

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/stories/2002-03-20-cover-table.htm

Edited July 25, 2017 by preceptor

[JohnnyThompsonnum1 102]

I'd give a chance at a senior Mitch Clark Vs a Freshman Cael Sanderson. 

[TBar1977 4,532]

I don't get it. I think Hammerlock/3/three for the past decade has been named after...

 

 

Tbar might be thinking this?

 

 

 

 

No, no, no. Here is Hammerlock's true identity. Watch the video. He is quite the instructor. 

 

https://endlessvideo.com/watch?v=WOy1SaKjpJ0

Edited July 25, 2017 by TBar1977

[hammerlockthree 2,635]

so you have resorted to googling my handle so you can grasp at obscure insults....

[AZCO 7]

Cael's matches (most of 'em anyway)

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/stories/2002-03-20-cover-table.htm

 

Dang, he had a heck of a national duals his jr. year

   

-Ed Aliakseyenka (Montclair St.) W-TF, 6:45 

-Josh Lambrecht (Oklahoma) W-MD, 16-8

-Daniel Cormier (Oklahoma St.) W-MD, 14-3

-Andy Hrovat (Michigan) W-F, :38

-Jessman Smith (Iowa) W-TF, 6:44

-Daniel Cormier (Oklahoma State) W-D, 10-3

 

Edited July 25, 2017 by AZCO

[BigTimeFan 1,141]

Cael's matches (most of 'em anyway)

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/stories/2002-03-20-cover-table.htm

When you put it that way ... 

[BigTimeFan 1,141]

Your screen name is a tool, tool. You need to think your insults thru a little better, numbnuts.

That's awesome

[TBar1977 4,532]

so you have resorted to googling my handle so you can grasp at obscure insults....

Nope. Just giving you back what you deserve after you threw out an unprovoked insult. If that, meaning insults, is where you are taking the board, then let's get this dance started. I don't mind getting muddy.

[tigerfan9311 223]

I don't know about beating him, but Cox vs Cael would've been a dogfight.  

[TobusRex 2,108]

Dan Hodge, maybe.

[AZCO 7]

I don't know about beating him, but Cox vs Cael would've been a dogfight.  

 

Sanderson was just so technical. I feel like he could have slowed Cox down a bit more than most, and negated some of his athleticism (think Pendleton staying technically sound and negating Askren's scrambling-as much as someone could at least). I know Moore is a stud, but he did push Cox to OT last year too.

[TobusRex 2,108]

I'd have utterly dominated Cael in college. Yeah, you could say I was bigger (wrestled 190), but I would point out that Cael was 8 years old my senior year....

[TobusRex 2,108]

Sanderson was just so technical. I feel like he could have slowed Cox down a bit more than most, and negated some of his athleticism (think Pendleton staying technically sound and negating Askren's scrambling-as much as someone could at least). I know Moore is a stud, but he did push Cox to OT last year too.

 

I think Cael would've been too slick for J'Den. On the other hand every time I've thought J'Den was outmatched he seemed to win, lol.

[IronChef 1,099]

Cox does a pretty good job slowing himself down. No reason to think he could match takedowns with Cael.

 

 

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