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#1 CoachWrestling

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:45 AM

Per intermat.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:07 AM

What's next, they detail trying to get Charlie Manson out of Jail to help coach? Maybe bring in Ted Bundy for pep talks?

 

A sad day for Iowa bringing in a cancer like this.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:09 AM

Win/Win.  

Iowa remains in the top ten and PDIII graduates college.



#4 KTG119

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:20 AM

Iowa fans - now that this is official, is there a feeling of going all in this year (ie guys like Warner and Lee do not RS)? 



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:25 AM

I hope this works out for everyone. It is good for society for a kid to get back on track.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:35 AM

Not a bad deal for PD. Enroll for the spring semester, go to practice & compete, then drop out after NCAA. Probably won't even have mid-term grades back prior to NCAAs. Does he even have to go to class?


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:49 AM

Not a bad deal for PD. Enroll for the spring semester, go to practice & compete, then drop out after NCAA. Probably won't even have mid-term grades back prior to NCAAs. Does he even have to go to class?


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The kids had to be enrolled in all the classes to be eligible to compete. However, they didn't have to earn credit in all the classes to make progress toward graduation and be eligible the next semester. So when they were eliminated from the tournament they would withdrawal from any class that they weren't doing well in and it would save their GPA and allow them to be eligible for the next year.
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#8 wrestlingphish

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:08 AM

Not a huge fan of this move but hopefully it works out for both parties. Downey still has coursework to complete at ISU so him making it to campus is not a guarantee. I would be interested to see the 'restrictions' placed on him by Tom. I have noticed his snapchat has toned it down a notch since his visit to Iowa.

 

If he gets his head on straight he will be a tremendous asset to the room. Pretty monstrous 'if' though.



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:18 AM

My only question is what is the upside? Give PDIII a chance at a national championship? This move doesn't help him get his degree because he should have it before ever enrolling at Iowa. If his aspiration is FS wrestling shouldn't he just go to a training center while finishing his undergrad and train? From the Iowa perspective does PDIII give them a better chance of beating PSU, tOSU, or OSU all of whom I would think are ahead of them?

 

As I said earlier I hope it goes well for PDIII, but I just don't understand the benefit.



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:19 AM

Wild how the the three biggest topics of this offseason were PD3 competing next year, Suriano transfer and McKenna transfer. And the topic that seems to be most likely to happen at this point is PD3 transfer and competing again. My prediction is he competes for Iowa and places top 3.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:24 AM

My only question is what is the upside? Give PDIII a chance at a national championship? This move doesn't help him get his degree because he should have it before ever enrolling at Iowa. If his aspiration is FS wrestling shouldn't he just go to a training center while finishing his undergrad and train? From the Iowa perspective does PDIII give them a better chance of beating PSU, tOSU, or OSU all of whom I would think are ahead of them?

 

As I said earlier I hope it goes well for PDIII, but I just don't understand the benefit.

 

Maybe Terry (who has been pushing for this from what I am told) thinks he can change him or help him? People have always said Terry is the stubborn one. Also, it sounds like Downey is going to be a walk on so its not like they are giving him big bucks to essentially be a mercenary.

 

As far as Downey's aspirations maybe he wants one last season of folkstyle to prove the 'haters' wrong. I think Moore is a solid favorite but don't see anyone else beating a focused (lol) Downey. And Downey is probably the most dangerous thrower in the 197 field so its not entirely out of the realm Pat could toss him.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:08 AM

Iowa fans - now that this is official, is there a feeling of going all in this year (ie guys like Warner and Lee do not RS)? 

Highly doubt Lee does not RS considering injuries and his need to bulk up.



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:10 AM

What's next, they detail trying to get Charlie Manson out of Jail to help coach? Maybe bring in Ted Bundy for pep talks?

 

A sad day for Iowa bringing in a cancer like this.

 

Every day you post on here is a sad day. 


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:11 AM

My only question is what is the upside? Give PDIII a chance at a national championship? This move doesn't help him get his degree because he should have it before ever enrolling at Iowa. If his aspiration is FS wrestling shouldn't he just go to a training center while finishing his undergrad and train? From the Iowa perspective does PDIII give them a better chance of beating PSU, tOSU, or OSU all of whom I would think are ahead of them?

As I said earlier I hope it goes well for PDIII, but I just don't understand the benefit.

This really is an upside all for Downey and relative low risk-high reward for Iowa since they would have him for a short time. Downey appears to be driven to win an NCAA title and as a result and the restrictions placed on him to try and attain that goal, it's forcing him to get his butt in gear school wise and get his undergrad completed first. Say what you want about him or his dad(I'm not the biggest fans of their actions or their posts online) but it would be good to see the kid ultimately get his degree at least.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:20 AM

This really is an upside all for Downey and relative low risk-high reward for Iowa since they would have him for a short time. Downey appears to be driven to win an NCAA title and as a result and the restrictions placed on him to try and attain that goal, it's forcing him to get his butt in gear school wise and get his undergrad completed first. Say what you want about him or his dad(I'm not the biggest fans of their actions or their posts online) but it would be good to see the kid ultimately get his degree at least.


I agree with this. I just really think that the Brands brothers are good at straightening kids out that have fallen off the right path a bit.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:32 AM

Win/Win.  

Iowa remains in the top ten and PDIII graduates college.

I'm pretty sure he has already graduated.  Otherwise he would have had to sit out a year, right?



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:48 AM

I'm pretty sure he has already graduated.  Otherwise he would have had to sit out a year, right?

 

He needs a couple more online classes to graduate which he is taking fall semester. When he graduates at semester he will have to enroll in grad school at Iowa (not necessarily cheap) and is supposedly eligible immediately. 

 

Which begs the question as to why don't more wrestlers do this? 



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:27 AM

*slams face into wall repeatedly*


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:32 AM

If anyone is looking for a new least favorite team, Iowa should have sprinted into the lead here.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:32 AM

He needs a couple more online classes to graduate which he is taking fall semester. When he graduates at semester he will have to enroll in grad school at Iowa (not necessarily cheap) and is supposedly eligible immediately. 
 
Which begs the question as to why don't more wrestlers do this?


I think we see something like 30% attrition by year in college wrestling. Very few athletes make it through for four years (let alone five or a graduate transfer). Of course, we don't notice because the only athletes that are followed, for the most part, are the national contenders.

We have seen it happen in wrestling. But even in Basketball and Football it isn't too common and there are many more teams and athletes.
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