MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Might as well get it going now! Richard Immel tweeted that Steiber has Rashidov 1st round, winner gets Khinghegashvilli! Damn, doesnt get any tougher than that! Brackets are up yet but the draws have been posted. Hard to follow just off those, but I do know Cox is on the bottom half with Yasar and Yazdani-Chariti on top. Couldnt really decipher much about Gilman and Gwiz but hopefully full brackets will be up soon. We knew going in 61 is the toughest and deepest weight. Steiber needs to come out firing. Hell, even if he beats Rashidov and loses to khinchegashvilli, if he gets pulled back in and gets a bronze while Russia gets eliminated with 0 points thats a big plus for us. Hoping for gold from him obviously, and its not out of the question, but it will be tough! The Russian at 86 Valiev is top side with Yasar and Yazdani so that helps us too, especially if Cox can make it to the finals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 556 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 We posted this dang thread at the same time let me see if I can delete mine Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Brackets up! Looking at 57, Gilman has Ukraine, then most likely Iran. More than likely Azerbijian would be his 1/4 opponent if he makes it that far. Jong from PRK or Sanayev from Kazakistan look like probable other semi finalist up top. Bottom side is nuts. Atli from Turkey vs Lomtadze, Georgia 1st round, and Tomar, India vs Uguev, Russia! Thats 4 of the bigger favorites here, and whoever emerges from those 1st round matches looks likely to meet in the quarters! Dubov is the only name I'm familiar with on bottom quarter. 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 61: Already discussed Steiber, he is the only one with a bye first round, Rashidov has a match to get to him first. Khinchegashvilli most likely in the 1/4 for one of those two. Not very familiar with any other names in the other top quarter, so pretty safe bet one of those 3 will be in finals, hell they might be the 3 best! Aliyiev could have Japan 2nd round in the next 1/4 bracket, I believe it is the Japanese wrestler who beat Higauchi. Im thinking winner there is likely favorite to make semis. Bottom quarter looks like Bonne vs Ehsanpour in 2nd round. Niyazebekov, Kazikstan vs Frangulyan 1st round, looks like likely quarter final opponet for Ehsanpour or Bonne. 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 86: Yasar up top, Espinal possible 2nd round opponent. Valiev, Russia vs Yasar likely top quarter matchup, and thats big because Yazdani-Chariti likely semi matchup so very possible Valiev/Yasar loser doesnt get pulled back in. Gostiev, Azerbijian could have Georgi 2nd round then Yazdani-Chariti in 1/4. Ganev the only name I'm familiar with in the next section bracket, but hes getting up there in age. He could see a Cuban or Uzbekistan in quarters, but again I'm not familiar with many in this 14 bracket. Bottom quarter, Cox looks to have two lesser know countries/opponents to get to quarters. Could have 2 seed from Poland, Baranowski or Vareeb, Hungary vs Orgodool from Mongolia 2nd round winner. If he gets by his 1/4 you have to love Cox's chance to make the finals! 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 125: Not a very large bracket at all. Akgul up top, just needs to win two to make semis, should coast. Mohebi vs Uzbekistan, winner gets Zaseev from Ukraine (former silver medalist) in round of 16. Gwiz gets Moldova first, then Ligeti of Hungary to get to quarter vs either Iran or Ukraine. Tough road, especially with Akgul waiting in semis, so he needs to come out of the quarter or he will almost certainly be eliminated. Much better talent in that quarter. Bernadze of Armenia vs Baran, Poland looks like the next quarter. Petriashvilli looks like he should cruise to the finals. Dont see much depth here, would be very surprised not to see Akgul vs Petriashvilli in finals. 2 pamela and PRyan2012 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 962 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 The Erdogan in Stieber's bracket is Opan Sat, right? 61kg looks really stacked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 538 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Sat is now Erdogan. If you're going to transfer into a country it's probably wise to pick the Dictator, I mean, President's name. Edited August 24, 2017 by wrestlingphish 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Yea, I definitely forgot about the artist formerly known as Opan Sat in my little breakdown. I dont know if he's still at the level he was at years ago when he was right there with Kudukhov, but if he's even close to it I think he has a pretty good shot at being a semi-finalist. Maybe we even see a rematch of Sat vs Steiber, either in semis or for bronze? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 328 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Hate to complain but how do you justify some getting byes? Not having a first round match is an advantage. Looking at Gwiz having to wrestling UKR guy in the 1/8. He is a big dude and that one match is going to be huge. And then Akgul wont even break a sweat before the semis and he has a buy. Gwiz overcomes this it would be beyond amazing. Only draw that went our way was Mr Cox! Edited August 24, 2017 by PRyan2012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 963 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Hate to complain but how do you justify some getting byes? Not having a first round match is an advantage. Looking at Gwiz having to wrestling UKR guy in the 1/8. He is a big dude and that one match is going to be huge. And then Akgul wont even break a sweat before the semis and he has a buy. Gwiz overcomes this it would be beyond amazing. Only draw that went our way was Mr Cox! Given that there aren't powers of two- how do you figure on not giving byes? And given the otherwise seemingly odd method of packing the bracket from bottom up, there's no more than one match each round that has a bye inequity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUMike 427 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Only draw that went our way was Mr Cox! Gilman's is pretty favorable by comparison. 2 PRyan2012 and Jasonmitchell32 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestfan 448 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 125: Mohebi vs Uzbekistan, winner gets Zaseev from Ukraine (former silver medalist) in round of 16 just in case you didn't notice, the Uzbek guy is Davit Modzmanashvili, former Olympic silver medalist from Georgia. this is his debut for Uzbekistan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 just in case you didn't notice, the Uzbek guy is Davit Modzmanashvili, former Olympic silver medalist from Georgia. this is his debut for Uzbekistan Nope, missed that too! I do remember that result now that you mention it, thanks. So yea, thats a tough first round match and even tougher match in the next round. Feels like that quarter is the toughest quarter here, and again with Akgul waiting in the semis only 1 of those several good credentialed guys will get pulled back. Whoever takes 5th from that top half will likely not be as good as a few guys who dont get pulled back in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 328 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 They should give wild cards and fill them up to 32. I do not care how they do it. Not rocket science. Akgul is a monster and he gets a draw like that. Good for him! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 1,816 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Cox should make the finals with this draw. Plus his finals opponent is going to be in for a rough day. Couldn't have asked for a better draw. Gilman got lucky too, although he is not favored to get to the semis. He certainly could, however. Nobody on his side should run through him on paper, but he also has almost no experience on this level and is susceptible to arm throws. Steiber's draw is insane. He could win against Rashidov and he is favored, but not a fun first round opponent. He has a chance against Georgia, but he needs to start off fast and look for a lace immediately. The longer that match goes, the more likely it is for Steiber to get caught and lose. If he gets through those two opponents and isn't dead, he will win gold. Gwiz has an OK draw. He has to make the semis, but if he does, he has a shot at bronze. Seems unlikely, but he is our best shot at a medal. Offensive, quick heavyweights are the way of the future. Very interesting matchups! I can't wait for tonight! 4am wake up will be worth it! I'm hoping for 3 medals. Somewhat confident in Jden. The rest? Not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 328 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) I see one medal Jden Silver Loses to Valiev who beats Yazdani Gwiz Loses to UKR DNP Logan 0-1 DNP Should get Bronze but draw can not get any harder Gilman 7th 2-1 Edited August 24, 2017 by PRyan2012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 I see one medal Jden Silver Loses to Valiev who beats Yazdani Gwiz Loses to UKR DNP Logan 0-1 DNP Should get Bronze but draw can not get any harder Gilman 7th 2-1 I think Steiber can beat Rashidov, and if he does that I think he absolutely wins a medal. Even if he loses to Khinchegashvilli, he will almost certainly get pulled back in, and I dont see anyone else up top who poses a threat to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 I see Russia potnetiall having a very bad day and it's not out of the question for them to end the day with 1 or no medals. We already dont expect anything from their 125. Rashidov we have already talked about, he could very well beat Steiber and Khinchegashvilli, or he could lose and not get pulled back in. Valiev will have Yasar, not out of the question to lose that match then have Yasar lose to Yazdani-Chariti to knock him out. Again, Valiev could certainly beat Yasar, but I dont think it would be an upset if he doesnt. Uguev could win this whole bracket, but he has a very tough draw and there are a lot of evenly matched guys here. Tomar 1st, then very possibly Atli or Lomtadze in the quarters, with Dubov awaiting whoever comes out of that quarter. It isnt like this guy is Kudukhov level good, so while I think he will medal, it wont be mind blowing if he drops a match to Atli who then loses to Dubov or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Was told stieber and khinchegashvili did some workouts together over the summer and it was pretty one sided in favor of khin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manyak 184 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Gilman DNP Stieber DNP J'Dex Gold Gwiz DNP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,360 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Stieber over Rashidov Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie 727 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Was told stieber and khinchegashvili did some workouts together over the summer and it was pretty one sided in favor of khin. Seems like a terrible matchup stylistically for Logan. Logan wants to attack in volume and push the pace... Khin prefers to counter and has some freaky defense. Logan has a habit of giving up early leads and Khin isn't the guy you want to wrestle from behind. 2 MisterHand and keltgen54 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,363 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Cox Gold. Gilman Bronze. I'll see what the rest of the draws look like before those weights' predictions. Edited August 24, 2017 by wrestlingnerd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisterHand 9 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Seems like a terrible matchup stylistically for Logan. Logan wants to attack in volume and push the pace... Khin prefers to counter and has some freaky defense. Logan has a habit of giving up early leads and Khin isn't the guy you want to wrestle from behind. This, exactly. I give Logan a 50-60% chance of getting by Rashidov. I give him about 30-40% chance of getting by Khin. Khin has one of the best wrestling IQs in all of the lighter weights. He's not invincible though, and has dropped a couple of surprise matches this year. Logan says he's not much of a gameplanner, and just looks to light up the scoreboard. I'd like to see more of a gameplan heading into the Khin match. From a sheer fan's perspective, it is a beautiful thing that we'll get to see the trio of Logan, Rashidov, and Khin battle it out. WAR LOGAN! 2 cjc007 and silver-medal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
