Peso 324 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 I have to give credit to some of you that knew Stieber couldn't hang with the two guys he lost to. I mean that. I thought he was probably going to finish top 3, but he clearly cannot beat two wrestlers in this tournament. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 917 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Geez. Two bouts. Two lose by TF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Stieber nearly teched (throw by and three lace legs) but narrowly survives. Down 0-8. Let's see if he can work some magic in the second. Nope. Gets teched 10-0. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 917 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Anyone know what time the finals are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcoates1 154 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Logan isn't even top five in the world right now. Didn't show much fight out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 You cant call Steiber's title last year a fluke, he beat the 4 best guys at that weight in a row and earnd that title. That said, there are guys at the weight now that are just on a whole different level. Steiber lost to the two best guys in the bracket, no shame in that, but would have liked to see it be a bit more competitive than being shutout and teched twice. Aliyev is on that level too, should be a great final. 1 BobbyGribbs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcoates1 154 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Anyone know what time the finals are? 1 EST Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fullnelson 84 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Ironic that our 2 most accomplished wrestlers today have the poorest showing. Shows how tough the Worlds are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 917 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 1 EST Awesome. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 1,992 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Aliev is in this weight too. Stieber at best is 4th best. With the right draw, he may have been able to get a bronze. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 1,992 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Ironic that our 2 most accomplished wrestlers today have the poorest showing. Shows how tough the Worlds are.Stieber's isn't his fault. He just isn't as good as those guys. Cox? I don't know. He didn't show up. Poor performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffr_ideal 216 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 How much does not having Rosselli hurt Logan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,798 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 You cant call Steiber's title last year a fluke, he beat the 4 best guys at that weight in a row and earnd that title. That said, there are guys at the weight now that are just on a whole different level. Steiber lost to the two best guys in the bracket, no shame in that, but would have liked to see it be a bit more competitive than being shutout and teched twice. Aliyev is on that level too, should be a great final.You're right that it wasn't a fluke, but it was an emptied out weight with no Olympians there (a bit like 57 kg is at this tournament). With that said he's definitely a top 10 wrestler at the weight and medal contender with a good draw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,798 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 How much does not having Rosselli hurt Logan?There's no evidence that it does, He lost to two guys way better than he has ever been. No shame in that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuckFor2 166 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 please stop calling for Taylor, he's not there. Cox just lost in the world SEMIS!! Did he get a good draw, was he favored? it's all irrelevant, he's our guy. Olympic bronze, followed by let's hope a world bronze, i'll take that every day... COX COX COX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 665 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 In fairness to Stieber, the two guys he lost to were light years better than anyone that the other Americans have wrestled excluding the Turkish Hvy who destroyed Gwiz. Cox got caught in two of his matches and it cost him one. He has wrestled well otherwise. Stieber had a brutal draw and couldn't overcome it. That said--he looked over-matched. 1 BobbyGribbs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fullnelson 84 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Stieber's isn't his fault. He just isn't as good as those guys. Cox? I don't know. He didn't show up. Poor performance. I understand that they are tough but 21-0 is weak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 I have to give credit to some of you that knew Stieber couldn't hang with the two guys he lost to. I mean that. I thought he was probably going to finish top 3, but he clearly cannot beat two wrestlers in this tournament. I think there are more wrestlers he would have lost to. I don't see him as a world champion level wrestler quite yet. The World championships the same year as the Olympics is usually the lowest quality of wrestling you'll see at this level. It's even below the World championships the year after the Olympics, which is the least meaningful of the four year cycle. That's why this year's tournament is important for 2020; this is the best chance to pick up a medal. I liked everyone's chances going into this tournament. Wouldn't be surprised by any of our guys winning it tomorrow. I think there's a very realistic chance next year that Zain is the only returning, defending World champion in college. Never would have guessed that after 2016. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcoates1 154 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 I really hope Cox's performance lights a fire under David Taylor's ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuckFor2 166 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/PortalPlayer.jsp?TIM=1503668543300&twSessionId=gdiqhzyyviiasza&videoId=594183009 Gilman not lacking in confidence, get it! Edited August 25, 2017 by DuckFor2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,488 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 I really hope Cox's performance lights a fire under David Taylor's ass. From his twitter it looks like it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crotalus 359 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 Geez. Two bouts. Two lose by TF. Three bouts, one win by tech as well. Not much of a consolation, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishhook 142 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 There's no evidence that it does, He lost to two guys way better than he has ever been. No shame in that. Logan beat Romanov the year Romanov won worlds. Logan at his best can beat anybody. Today he clearly was not at his best. He and his coaches have to figure out why that is. But Romanov would beat Kinch or Rashidov...and Logan at his best beat Romanov. Though perhaps Romanov had a bad match that day. I think the world has scouted Logan pretty good now is part of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 "He beat the 4 best guys at that weight in a row". He most certainly did not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,798 Report post Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) please stop calling for Taylor, he's not there. Cox just lost in the world SEMIS!! Did he get a good draw, was he favored? it's all irrelevant, he's our guy. Olympic bronze, followed by let's hope a world bronze, i'll take that every day... COX COX COX Did you watch his matches? It's not irrelevant. It was an awful performance. He was a completely different athlete than the one who fought for bronze in rio. Edited August 25, 2017 by Billyhoyle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
