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How many AAs will each team have, outside of PSU, OSU, tOSU and Iowa?


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#1 Housebuye

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:13 PM

Michigan: 7
Rutgers: 5
NC State: 3
Lehigh: 4
VT: 5

This is mostly best case. How many will other teams have?

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:17 PM

Arizona St.   >5

 

Millhoff

Shields

Tsirtsis

Maruca   (i added all three dependent on where the lineup shakes out)

A. Valencia

Z Valencia

Hall


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:21 PM

Lehigh - likely to 4, stretch goal of 6
125: Cruz
133: Parker
157: Walter (longest shot of my six)
165: Kutler
174: Preisch
285: Wood (more likely R12/R16)


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#4 KTG119

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:54 PM

Michigan: 7
Rutgers: 5
NC State: 3
Lehigh: 4
VT: 5

This is mostly best case. How many will other teams have?

I hope Tech has 5 or more, but not so sure that is likely this go round. I'd put them at 3.5 for over under I think. 

 

Rutgers-Ashnault being questionable is big there. Healthy, he and Suriano are their 'lock' AAs. 


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#5 HokieFan

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:09 AM

I hope Tech has 5 or more, but not so sure that is likely this go round. I'd put them at 3.5 for over under I think. 

 

Rutgers-Ashnault being questionable is big there. Healthy, he and Suriano are their 'lock' AAs. 

 

That's probably realistic.  I think they get 4 with Chishko, McFadden, Zavatsky and Haught and McFadden has his work cut out for him at 165 for sure.  Not sure if anyone else really has a realistic chance.  Maybe Lewis at 157 (if he doesn't redshirt) can have a Dance/McFadden like true freshman year where he takes lumps early and then makes a run at the tournament.


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#6 Housebuye

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:13 AM

I hope Tech has 5 or more, but not so sure that is likely this go round. I'd put them at 3.5 for over under I think.

Rutgers-Ashnault being questionable is big there. Healthy, he and Suriano are their 'lock' AAs.

I think a healthy Richie Lewis is as close to a lock to AA as a senior who hasn’t AAd yet can be.

They also have two other returning round of 12ers

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:15 AM

That's probably realistic. I think they get 4 with Chishko, McFadden, Zavatsky and Haught and McFadden has his work cut out for him at 165 for sure. Not sure if anyone else really has a realistic chance. Maybe Lewis at 157 (if he doesn't redshirt) can have a Dance/McFadden like true freshman year where he takes lumps early and then makes a run at the tournament.

VT has some solid freshman. One ending up on the podium wouldn’t be a shocker.

I’m far more concerned with McFadden. In every other weight class, a gifew wo h his skill and resume would be a big favorite to AA. At 165? Not so confident. He will gave to beat a Marinelli/Martstellar level guy to AA I think.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:20 AM

I think a healthy Richie Lewis is as close to a lock to AA as a senior who hasn’t AAd yet can be.

They also have two other returning round of 12ers

oh yeah they have a legit shot for 5 AAs. minus Ashnault obviously that is much harder.  



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:43 AM

VT has some solid freshman. One ending up on the podium wouldn’t be a shocker.

I’m far more concerned with McFadden. In every other weight class, a gifew wo h his skill and resume would be a big favorite to AA. At 165? Not so confident. He will gave to beat a Marinelli/Martstellar level guy to AA I think.

 

He beat Marstellar pretty soundly in one of the opens last year.  But that was last year. 



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:36 AM

Mizzou has 4 quite likely AA's with Eierman, Lavallee, Lewis, and Miklus.  Erneste is #9 according to Flo, with wins over #6 & #7, so I think he is a possible.  Beyond that, Flynn at 165 and McGhee at 125 are looong shots.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:15 AM

Let's see if we can figure all 80:

 

tOSU-9

OkState-8

PSU-7

Michigan-7

Iowa-6

ASU-6

Rutgers-3

Lehigh-3

Cornell-3

Missouri-3

Nebraska-2

Minnesota-2

NCState-2

UNI-2

Lock Haven-2

Illinois-2

PITT-2

Virginia Tech-2

Edinboro-1

Princeton-1

Central Michigan-1

Virginia-1

Wyoming-1

Oregon State-1

Duke-1

Michigan State-1

South Dakota State-1

 

 

This was really hard to do.  Just 141 is ridiculous.  Leaving out Storr, Red and Thorn is hard to do, especially when you end up not giving ISU a single AA.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:19 AM

Let's see if we can figure all 80:

tOSU-9
OkState-8
PSU-7
Michigan-7
Iowa-6
ASU-6
Rutgers-3
Lehigh-3
Cornell-3
Missouri-3
Nebraska-2
Minnesota-2
NCState-2
UNI-2
Lock Haven-2
Illinois-2
PITT-2
Virginia Tech-2
Edinboro-1
Princeton-1
Central Michigan-1
Virginia-1
Wyoming-1
Oregon State-1
Duke-1
Michigan State-1
South Dakota State-1


This was really hard to do. Just 141 is ridiculous. Leaving out Storr, Red and Thorn is hard to do, especially when you end up not giving ISU a single AA.


Who are your 6 Iowa AA's? Lol

#13 MSU158

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:22 AM

Who are your 6 Iowa AA's? Lol

You laugh at that as if it is unreasonable?

 

 

Sorenson, Kemerer, Marinelli, Young, Downey and Stoll.  Which of those is unreasonable?



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:26 AM

Iowa will be hard pressed to have Five this year, much less six. Underperforming at the NCAA tournament is becoming a habit. At that, their underperforming puts them pretty high and a lot of teams would trade places with them in a heartbeat. Compared to the Iowa juggernaut of previous decades, they are a shell.


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#15 MSU158

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:28 AM

Iowa will be hard pressed to have Five this year.

Don't just make an empty statement.  Since 5 will be hard for them, which of my 6 do you see not AA'ing?

 

Also, if Lee ends up going this season like many rumors are saying, 6 should be very manageable.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:34 AM

You laugh at that as if it is unreasonable?


Sorenson, Kemerer, Marinelli, Young, Downey and Stoll. Which of those is unreasonable?

All are "reasonable"
The unlikely ones areb
Marinelli = unproven in a deep weight
Young = see above
Downey = AA talent matched with 10 cent head
Stoll = injuries, injuries, injuries

Over/under 2.5

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#17 MSU158

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:42 AM

All are "reasonable"
The unlikely ones areb
Marinelli = unproven in a deep weight
Young = see above
Downey = AA talent matched with 10 cent head
Stoll = injuries, injuries, injuries

Over/under 2.5

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I will bet whatever you will let me on the over.

 

Barring injuries(which would effect every single team's projections) and a stupid decision on Downey's part, Sorenson, Kemerer, Downey and Stoll are locks.  All 4 are solidly top 6 in their weights if healthy.

 

Marinelli is extremely good.  165 is top heavy but not overly deep.  After Martinez, Massa and Joseph it drops down to Rogers, Valencia, Womack, Walsh and Marstellar.  There is no way I would put all 5 of those ahead of him to keep him off the podium.

 

Young is definitely the least talented, but 174 is another weight that drops off considerably after the top 4, with the other 4 AA's graduating. Preisch is strong and Lewis is moving up. Jacobe Smith has looked great.  After that, who do you legitimately put ahead of him?

 

I could see 5 being a more safe prediction, but I know Iowa doesn't want to drop out of the top 5 and with the 6 AA's I predicted, that is where they should end up.


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#18 LordNelson

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:46 AM

If Iowa can't crown more than 3 AA's than Brands should actually be fired.



#19 MSU158

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:46 AM

Obviously this is so early that many things will change as the season progresses, but this is how I would have the teams finish based on those AA's.

 

1st-PSU

2nd-tOSU

3rd-OkState

4th-Michigan

5th-Iowa

6th-ASU

7th-Missouri

8th-Cornell

9th-Lehigh

10th-Illinois



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:47 AM

Best case scenario (without saying 10 obviously) I see Minny having 5, maybe 6 with those as follows...

 

125 Lizak - 1-4

 

133 McKee - 5-8

 

141 Thorn - 5-8

 

149 - Bleis - 5-8

 

157- Short - 5-8

 

197 - Steveson - 5-8

 

On a more realistic note I see MN having 3

 

125,133,141

 

The NCAAs always give us different results then we think would happen, it is scary that it isn't out of the realm of MN having 1 AA. 






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