Housebuye 2,417 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Who are you picking?Bo had a come from behind win last week, but Bo does that. At Big10s last year he did the same, I think against Amine, and then beat Hall. Bo apparently has been working on his top game. That could work in Bo’s favor.Zahid just avenged his only loss from last season. He looks unstoppable, especially on the feet.The obvious pick is Zahid. Is anyone taking Bo? Edited November 9, 2017 by Housebuye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Zahid beats Fritz Schierl 21-6 2 Perry and LaxHawk174 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGranby 221 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 My heart says Bojo My mind says Zahid in OT. I think we end the year with 1.Zahid 2.Bo 3.Hall 2 rcoates1 and Fletcher reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcoates1 155 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 I will take BoJo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PANewbie 35 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 BoJo's toast. Zahid and Hall have passed him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcoates1 155 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 BoJo's toast. Zahid and Hall have passed him Hmmmmm. So, a finally healthy Bo isn't going to be better this year? When did Zahid and Hall pass him? 1 NYWRESTLER94 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Hmmmmm. So, a finally healthy Bo isn't going to be better this year? When did Zahid and Hall pass him? I would say they passed him last season. At the NCAAs, I wouldn't be surprised to see Zahid win big over Bo. Different talent brackets. Unless Bo has improved and attained a level of skill that he hasn't displayed before, I see him as being on the outside looking in. I believe Zahid has the ability to open Bo up, but perhaps maybe he doesn't yet have the confidence. Oftentimes young talented wrestlers are able to be easily thrown off their game when they wrestle powerful opponents, even if the opponent is very limited in wrestling ability. It's a sign of maturity and approaching an elite level of skill when a wrestler is able to consistently pick apart wrestlers that have one significant physical attribute surrounded by a relatively mediocre skill set. I still like Zahid to win very comfortably by the national tournament. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,996 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Zahid. He is still improving and has a great motor despite being the biggest guy at 174. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Zahid and Hall are on the cusp of being Senior level world class. BoJo isn't getting any better. Scores may be close but the the matches won't be as close as any score. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Supposedly BoJo has been wrestling through crippling injuries.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 1,084 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Oftentimes young talented wrestlers are able to be easily thrown off their game when they wrestle powerful opponents, even if the opponent is very limited in wrestling ability. It's a sign of maturity and approaching an elite level of skill when a wrestler is able to consistently pick apart wrestlers that have one significant physical attribute surrounded by a relatively mediocre skill set. I still like Zahid to win very comfortably by the national tournament. Bo Jordan is "very limited in wrestling ability" and has "a relatively mediocre skill set." NCAA finishes so far: 3/3/2 Edited November 9, 2017 by Fletcher 4 mattchristensen112, steamboat_charlie, NYWRESTLER94 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaBearSLIM 48 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Bo Jordan is "very limited in wrestling ability" and has "a relatively mediocre skill set." NCAA finishes so far: 3/3/2 You beat me to it. At worst he finishes 3rd this year. So 4 top 3 finishes while being mediocre/limited. That Tom Ryan sure can coach em up. Edited November 9, 2017 by PapaBearSLIM 1 NYWRESTLER94 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squeek 67 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 I really want to pick BoJo but it's just so hard to pick against Ryan. I would feel better if I knew Bo and his wife had a babysitter lined up and on lock down for Sunday afternoon otherwise..... We all know diapers don't change themselves Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk 1 BobbyGribbs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Bo Jordan is "very limited in wrestling ability" and has "a relatively mediocre skill set." NCAA finishes so far: 3/3/2 Yes, absolutely. Is what I said hard to understand? I'm not sure what his non-1st place finishes have to do with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Yeah Bo is a real underdog story......The kid is a freak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Witherman 384 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) I think the thing I like the most interesting piece of this discussion is that we will get to see them wrestle multiple times throughout the year!! I don't believe we will see Hall vs Zahid again until the NCAA's (someone correct me if I'm wrong) we will see Zahid vs Amine tomorrow Zahid vs Bojo on sunday Zahid vs Bojo vs Amine in vegas (course depends on how brackets shake out) possbily see Bojo vs Hall @ scuffle Hall vs Amine @ dual Hall vs Bojo vs Amine @ B1G's What an amazing season of wrestling we will get to watch @ 174!!! EDIT: forgot to mention - this all only happens if everyone starts their studs at these duals. Edited November 10, 2017 by Witherman 2 BobbyGribbs and BigTimeFan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 1,084 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Yes, absolutely. Is what I said hard to understand? I'm not sure what his non-1st place finishes have to do with this. They carry the same weight as Zahid's non-1st place finish. 1 NYWRESTLER94 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 They carry the same weight as Zahid's non-1st place finish. Sure, however that has nothing to do with what I said about Zahid or Bo's wrestling talent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Yeah its kinda like how Dustin Schlatter just wasn't talented enough. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 People think that because iMar eventually caught up to and passed BoJo, other all-timers (Zahid and Hall) will as well. Don't know if I buy it, but I hope it's true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Yeah its kinda like how Dustin Schlatter just wasn't talented enough. I wouldn't compare Bo to D. Schlatter. Schlatter was definitely more talented. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 1,084 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Sure, however that has nothing to do with what I said about Zahid or Bo's wrestling talent. You're absolutely correct - for non-1st place finishers, there's no correlation between wrestling talent and placement at NCAAs. Incidentally, it's also "backwards day" at my kids school today! Edited November 9, 2017 by Fletcher 1 NYWRESTLER94 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 I don't mean to get stuck on this but Bo was tearing apart full grown men with middle school moves as a freshmen. The talent is there. I am not judging the guy, I know his plate is full, D1 wrestling is insanely competitive....I just can't let the talent excuse go. 1 AllISeeIsBronze reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 1,084 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) I don't mean to get stuck on this but Bo was tearing apart full grown men with middle school moves as a freshmen. The talent is there. I am not judging the guy, I know his plate is full, D1 wrestling is insanely competitive....I just can't let the talent excuse go. Jordan Burroughs won olympic gold with middle school moves. Edited November 9, 2017 by Fletcher 1 redblades reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmik 218 Report post Posted November 9, 2017 You're absolutely correct - for non-1st place finishers, there's no correlation between wrestling talent and placement at NCAAs. Incidentally, it's also "backwards day" at my kids school today! Funny. Bo is not same type of talent that Zahid is. Darian Cruz is not the same type of talent that Logan Stieber is. This is not hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites