U23's

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Ravinder can score ... it's 8-6 Ozdemir!

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Now it's 8-8 with Ozdemir in the lead!

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Insane Ozdemir was completely gassed at the end and barely held on, but he did! Ozdemir makes the semis (and McKee lives to fight another day).

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Meanwhile Brooks and Kroels are out. Both their guys got demolished in the next round. 

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

The 57kg semifinals is 

 

Reineri Andreu Ortega (Cuba)

Parviz Ibrahimov (Azerbaijan) [aka guy who beat FIX first round]

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

And Ortega wins it with a takedown in the last 10 seconds. 

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Now Ozdemir from TUR vs KAZ in the semis. Ozdemir defeated McKee in the first round.

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

So Fix is out. Sigh.

 

EDIT: I actually don't know the rules here. Does the guy who beat him have to make the finals or semis?

Edited November 25, 2017 by BigTimeFan

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Argh, damn, I am talking to myself now. Fix is out. Really tough crew on the bottomside of the bracket.

[Fishhook 142]

So Fix is out. Sigh.

 

EDIT: I actually don't know the rules here. Does the guy who beat him have to make the finals or semis?

Finals. 

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Damn Ozdemir from Turkey loses in the semis. Tough day for USA.

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Finals. 

Ya. My wishful thinking got in the way of what I should have known.

[maligned 471]

Damn Ozdemir from Turkey loses in the semis. Tough day EVENT for USA.

 

Five days, no medals. Fix is a disappointment, a couple of our ladies had a good shot at medals, Bey was a virtual no-show in Greco--but overall we sent a team across the board far below the level that other nations sent. Brooks and Kroells, for example, have no business being at a tournament like this that involves current or future senior reps. Not sure what we have to do to encourage better participation in the qualification process, but this is a HIGH-level event that attracted mostly a team of people outside the top 10 of our senior-level talent pool.

[MadMardigain 1,356]

It must be 2018 already because this is not a 2017 USA world result.

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Five days, no medals. Fix is a disappointment, a couple of our ladies had a good shot at medals, Bey was a virtual no-show in Greco--but overall we sent a team across the board far below the level that other nations sent. Brooks and Kroells, for example, have no business being at a tournament like this that involves current or future senior reps. Not sure what we have to do to encourage better participation in the qualification process, but this is a HIGH-level event that attracted mostly a team of people outside the top 10 of our senior-level talent pool.

I totally agree. I mean Georgia sent Geno Petriashvili at 125kg who is the reigning world champ. It would not have been beneath Snyder to show up. If we had sent our Jr. World team it would have been a step up in many weight classes (96kg, 86kg). 

[cjc007 703]

I guess Gilman is better than Fix after all.

 

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[maligned 471]

Bad performance by Fix, though--especially after the first takedown by Ibrahimov. Anyone could see the guy was 100% counters, especially off snap-downs and "head hanging" by his opponent. Coaches were even screaming, "don't hang." But he gives up key scores TWICE when Ibrahimov is on the clock because Fix can't restrain himself from head snapping for a few seconds.

 

No excuse because they got beat fair and square, but, man, McKee and Fix's quarters were loaded compared to the other quarter on their halves. I would put a lot of money on Fix or Yatsenko beating Andreu of Cuba easily, but Ibrahimov had nothing left late (and gave up a phantom two in my opinion and should have been up 4-1 before the late takedown). And Ozdemir of Turkey clearly was completely gassed after his 8-8 match in the quarters and still somehow almost comes back 20 minutes later to advance in the semi's. McKee would have had a second shot in the repechage in a just world with balanced brackets too.

Edited November 25, 2017 by maligned

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

At 86kg Karimi from Iran last to Zhabrailov from Russia 14-3. Karimi was 2015 senior world Bronze. In today's match Karimi was up 3-2 when the Russian took him down and leg laced him to death.

[maligned 471]

I guess Gilman is better than Fix after all.

 

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It's the first time it's ever been exposed so well against Fix: he doesn't have the needed offense from outside or from angles when he's facing someone who controls the hand fight so well. He rarely came close to launching a real shot because everything he does is close-in off ties or straight-down-the-middle attacks. He was slowed down unbelievably well.

Edited November 25, 2017 by maligned

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

Bad performance by Fix, though--especially after the first takedown by Ibrahimov. Anyone could see the guy was 100% counters, especially off snap-downs and "head hanging" by his opponent. Coaches were even screaming, "don't hang." But he gives up key scores TWICE when Ibrahimov is on the clock because Fix can't restrain himself from head snapping for a few seconds.

 

No excuse because they got beat fair and square, but, man, McKee and Fix's quarters were loaded compared to the other quarter on their halves. I would put a lot of money on Fix or Yatsenko beating Andreu of Cuba easily, but Ibrahimov had nothing left late (and gave up a phantom two in my opinion and should have been up 4-1 before the late takedown). And Ozdemir of Turkey clearly was completely gassed after his 8-8 match in the quarters and still somehow almost comes back 20 minutes later to advance in the semi's. McKee would have had a second shot in the repechage in a just world with balanced brackets too.

It was hard to tell whether it was truly a bad performance by Fix all around or tactically stupid for being so aggressive when Ibrahimov was on the clock. 

 

What's truly disappointing in both cases is how tough their halves were. Both the guys who beat them (Fix and McKee) were right there to make the finals versus relatively weak upper brackets. Too bad. 

[BigTimeFan 1,032]

At this point in time I start to wonder how Spencer Lee would have fared. His ability to create angles and score from outside quite possibly at a much higher level than Fix's 

[Housebuye 2,221]

Don’t worry about this result

 

Fix also didn’t do well his first year at juniors.

 

McKee is in the middle of a college season.

 

We are still one of the favorites for cadets, juniors and world’s next year.

 

Fix will win a world gold before he retires. Fix losing here doesn’t mean he loses to Gilman head to head. Even if he does at trials this year, he is 19. He has plenty of time to improve.

 

We will have a medal contender at every weight next year.

[LemonPie 1,368]

Fix out?

 

Thanks, Folkstyle

[Housebuye 2,221]

Fix out?

 

Thanks, Folkstyle

I assume you said the same when we won junior worlds? And the US team won world last year?

 

All of our wrestlers focus or focused on folkstyle. It’s why we have the best singles and doubles in the world.

[boconnell 1,503]

Fix out?

 

Thanks, Folkstyle

The other day you whined that Fix wasn't wrestling folk and John Smith stole a great matchup from you.  Now you whine he is wrestling folk.  I guess when you're that big of a whiner it's hard to keep it all straight.  

 

Disappointing day from Fix.  Usually he is the guy countering and this guy didn't let him do that.  Maybe it's a blueprint for wrestling him.