Remaining Undefeated Wrestlers (as of Jan. 19, 2018)

[dmm53 319]

Notes:

a. The list does not include guys redshirting.

b. Total = 10 undefeated. 

c. In all likelihood, the Hodge  winner will come from this group.

d.  Penn State has 3 undefeated wrestlers. No other team has more than 1

 

125  Suriano,  Cruz

133

141

149 Retherford

157  Hidlay

165  Martinez,  McFadden

174  Hall, Valencia, Lewis

184 Nickal

197

285

Edited March 5, 2018 by dmm53

[denny 215]

Thanks - very useful

[dmm53 319]

Forgot to add Chad Walsh of Rider to the list.  Made the correction. 

[dmm53 319]

Tomasello goes down.   25 bottles of beer on the wall.

[LemonPie 1,318]

Asterisk for Stoll, please. Ducks Hemida and now Snyder

[ionel 582]

I'd take Cruz off the list.

 

Not really sure Stoll belongs on there, but ...

[TBar1977 2,755]

Stoll ducked 2 guys, one of whom woulda rolled him.

[dmm53 319]

I'm curious what might happen with NCAA seeds if either Pletcher or Zacherl remain undefeated going into the tournament at 133 and 141, respectively. Zacherl has only wrestled and beaten Nick Lee among top ten guys (a 6-4 match) I think. Would either or both be considered for a #1 seed? While Pletcher is ranked #2 by Flo, Zacherl is ranked #7 by Flo and does not face any major upcoming challenges By contrast, the top 5 or 6 guys at the weight (Meredith, Jack, Yanni, Heil, Eirmann) have been beating up on each other all year while Zacherl lays low in the E.W.L. At 133, Gross is clearly the cream of the crop but he went up to face off with Meredith at 141 and lost a close match so he won't officially be undefeated. 

I'm curious how the seeding committee will (or should) handle the potential situations.

Here are Zacherl's matches before the conference championship:

01/26 #145 Hagan, Nate Comparison #32 Edinboro
01/28 #34 Cheek, Evan Comparison #72 Cleveland State
02/02 #21 Dippery, Tyson Comparison #15 Rider
02/09 #250 Stahlnecker, Braden Comparison #64 Bloomsburg
02/11 #30 Shoop, Kyle Comparison #16 Lock Haven
02/16 #113 Perry, Sa'Derian Comparison #52 Eastern Michigan
02/16 #18 Gasca, Javier Comparison #55 Michigan State
02/18 #56 Monserrat, Christian Comparison #47 West Virginia

Here are Pletcher's:

01/26 #153 Santos, Matt Comparison #55 Michigan State
01/28 #30 Thornton, Ben Comparison #31 Purdue
02/03 #27 Keener, Corey Comparison #2 Penn State
02/11 #4 Micic, Stevan Comparison #3 Michigan
02/18 #19 Wilson, Tariq Comparison #6 North Carolina State

[ArmDrag14 64]

PD3 needs to be on list

[dougb 30]

What about of Rutgers Anthony Ashnault CURRENTLY ranked #2 at 141 by Wrestlestat?  That would be funny if Ashnault and PD3 begin their season at Conference and win NCAA, at their best it is possible.

[ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 170]

PD3 needs to be on list

 

If you're going to include Snyder and other guys who have barely wrestled you might as well. 

[HokieFan 86]

165 is fun.  There's a very good chance McFadden makes it to NCAAs undefeated.  His remaining schedule includes Lehigh, Duke, UNC, NC State and Virginia - and he'll be heavily favored to win all of those and ACCs.  Chances are either Joseph or Martinez will also be undefeated so the best he can probably do is the 2 seed. 

 

I'm not sure it matters all that much though.  Any match from the quarters on will be brutal no matter how it shakes out.

[dmm53 319]

Down go three more undefeated guys:  Walsh (to Marsteller), Weigel (to Miklus) and Stoll (to Coon).   22 (undefeated) bottles of beer on the wall . . .

[cornercoach 445]

If you're going to include Snyder and other guys who have barely wrestled you might as well. 

 

..."barely wrestled" ---there is not much else to do in Krasnoyark....

[ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 170]

..."barely wrestled" ---there is not much else to do in Krasnoyark....

 

Snyder is an unbelievably talented wrestler. He might go down as the best the US has ever had. But he is barely a college wrestler and since his freshman season has basically only wrestled in the postseason plus an occasional match here and there.  One big thing that he avoids by doing that is the grind of having to wrestle every week and the pressure of never being able to have an off night.  It doesn't take anything away from Snyder to point that out.  Lots more guys would be undefeated in college if they only wrestled two weekends plus a couple of hand picked duals each year. 

Edited January 28, 2018 by ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying

[jstock 119]

8 from PA

[Erminio8 32]

8 from PA

9 I think...Cruz, Pletcher, Zacherl, Zain, Nolf, Kemerer, Hidlay, Joseph, Renda

[RichB 121]

I'd take Cruz off the list.

 

Not really sure Stoll belongs on there, but ...

Take Cruz of the list, but leave Hall on????????????? 

[WillieBoy 532]

Nolf is off the list. Injury Default and serious concern the knee injury that caused it may end his season.

Hope he is OK and recovers quickly. Appears a freak accident torqued the knee a bit too much, not intentional on the part of his opponent from Rutgers.

[Aviator12 166]

Snyder is an unbelievably talented wrestler. He might go down as the best the US has ever had. But he is barely a college wrestler and since his freshman season has basically only wrestled in the postseason plus an occasional match here and there. One big thing that he avoids by doing that is the grind of having to wrestle every week and the pressure of never being able to have an off night. It doesn't take anything away from Snyder to point that out. Lots more guys would be undefeated in college if they only wrestled two weekends plus a couple of hand picked duals each year.

You do realize Snyder doesn’t “take off” anything during the season he just won the Yarygin, arguably the toughest tournament in the world, for the second year in a row. You can seriously say with a straight face Snyder is at an advantage not wrestling college amateurs over the toughests professionals in the world during the season, that’s an unfair advantage he has??

[wrestlingnerd 2,045]

Well, the Yarygin is starting to become a JV tournament for Snyder, so the man has a point.

[dmm53 319]

Really sad to see Nolf—the most exciting and innovate wrestler in the NCAA—go down because of an injury default. 

[ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 170]

You do realize Snyder doesn’t “take off” anything during the season he just won the Yarygin, arguably the toughest tournament in the world, for the second year in a row. You can seriously say with a straight face Snyder is at an advantage not wrestling college amateurs over the toughests professionals in the world during the season, that’s an unfair advantage he has??

 

Snyder is not competing every single week.  Snyder does not go through the grind of a college wrestling season and has not done so since he was a freshman. Yes, that is an advantage. Especially when the conversation is about guys going undefeated.  Snyder doesn't risk having an off night, or getting caught, or having to wrestle with a tweaked ankle, or whatever else. Going undefeated is impressive because it isn't just about talent. It is about consistency.

[Housebuye 1,440]

Snyder is not competing every single week. Snyder does not go through the grind of a college wrestling season and has not done so since he was a freshman. Yes, that is an advantage. Especially when the conversation is about guys going undefeated. Snyder doesn't risk having an off night, or getting caught, or having to wrestle with a tweaked ankle, or whatever else. Going undefeated is impressive because it isn't just about talent. It is about consistency.

Are you now claiming Snyder isn’t consistent? He has won 3 world level golds out of 3 tries

 

 

If the point is he takes less risk because he doesn’t wrestle a full folk season, fine. I can’t prove he wouldn’t lose to random guys, but he has had 1 competitive match since freshman year and it was against a returning 2 timer who now has a world bronze.

 

Who would’ve beatenb him, even on an off night? When did he skip a match he had any shot at losing?

[BigTenFanboy 1,509]

Myles Martin and Kollin Moore go down

Edited February 4, 2018 by BigTenFanboy