dmm53 467 Report post Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) Notes: a. The list does not include guys redshirting. b. Total = 10 undefeated. c. In all likelihood, the Hodge winner will come from this group. d. Penn State has 3 undefeated wrestlers. No other team has more than 1 125 Suriano, Cruz 133 141 149 Retherford 157 Hidlay 165 Martinez, McFadden 174 Hall, Valencia, Lewis 184 Nickal 197 285 Edited March 5, 2018 by dmm53 4 PSUMike, Angry_Fish, Yellow_Medal and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denny 215 Report post Posted January 20, 2018 Thanks - very useful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 467 Report post Posted January 21, 2018 Forgot to add Chad Walsh of Rider to the list. Made the correction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 467 Report post Posted January 21, 2018 Tomasello goes down. 25 bottles of beer on the wall. 1 BigTenFanboy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted January 21, 2018 Asterisk for Stoll, please. Ducks Hemida and now Snyder 1 KCMO2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,250 Report post Posted January 21, 2018 I'd take Cruz off the list. Not really sure Stoll belongs on there, but ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,764 Report post Posted January 21, 2018 Stoll ducked 2 guys, one of whom woulda rolled him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 467 Report post Posted January 22, 2018 I'm curious what might happen with NCAA seeds if either Pletcher or Zacherl remain undefeated going into the tournament at 133 and 141, respectively. Zacherl has only wrestled and beaten Nick Lee among top ten guys (a 6-4 match) I think. Would either or both be considered for a #1 seed? While Pletcher is ranked #2 by Flo, Zacherl is ranked #7 by Flo and does not face any major upcoming challenges By contrast, the top 5 or 6 guys at the weight (Meredith, Jack, Yanni, Heil, Eirmann) have been beating up on each other all year while Zacherl lays low in the E.W.L. At 133, Gross is clearly the cream of the crop but he went up to face off with Meredith at 141 and lost a close match so he won't officially be undefeated. I'm curious how the seeding committee will (or should) handle the potential situations.Here are Zacherl's matches before the conference championship:01/26 #145 Hagan, Nate Comparison #32 Edinboro01/28 #34 Cheek, Evan Comparison #72 Cleveland State02/02 #21 Dippery, Tyson Comparison #15 Rider02/09 #250 Stahlnecker, Braden Comparison #64 Bloomsburg02/11 #30 Shoop, Kyle Comparison #16 Lock Haven02/16 #113 Perry, Sa'Derian Comparison #52 Eastern Michigan02/16 #18 Gasca, Javier Comparison #55 Michigan State02/18 #56 Monserrat, Christian Comparison #47 West VirginiaHere are Pletcher's:01/26 #153 Santos, Matt Comparison #55 Michigan State01/28 #30 Thornton, Ben Comparison #31 Purdue02/03 #27 Keener, Corey Comparison #2 Penn State02/11 #4 Micic, Stevan Comparison #3 Michigan02/18 #19 Wilson, Tariq Comparison #6 North Carolina State Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmDrag14 64 Report post Posted January 22, 2018 PD3 needs to be on list 4 HurricaneWrestling, Yellow_Medal, PSUMike and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dougb 46 Report post Posted January 22, 2018 What about of Rutgers Anthony Ashnault CURRENTLY ranked #2 at 141 by Wrestlestat? That would be funny if Ashnault and PD3 begin their season at Conference and win NCAA, at their best it is possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 179 Report post Posted January 22, 2018 PD3 needs to be on list If you're going to include Snyder and other guys who have barely wrestled you might as well. 1 ClawRide reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieFan 88 Report post Posted January 22, 2018 165 is fun. There's a very good chance McFadden makes it to NCAAs undefeated. His remaining schedule includes Lehigh, Duke, UNC, NC State and Virginia - and he'll be heavily favored to win all of those and ACCs. Chances are either Joseph or Martinez will also be undefeated so the best he can probably do is the 2 seed. I'm not sure it matters all that much though. Any match from the quarters on will be brutal no matter how it shakes out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 467 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 Down go three more undefeated guys: Walsh (to Marsteller), Weigel (to Miklus) and Stoll (to Coon). 22 (undefeated) bottles of beer on the wall . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornercoach 448 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 If you're going to include Snyder and other guys who have barely wrestled you might as well. ..."barely wrestled" ---there is not much else to do in Krasnoyark.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 179 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) ..."barely wrestled" ---there is not much else to do in Krasnoyark.... Snyder is an unbelievably talented wrestler. He might go down as the best the US has ever had. But he is barely a college wrestler and since his freshman season has basically only wrestled in the postseason plus an occasional match here and there. One big thing that he avoids by doing that is the grind of having to wrestle every week and the pressure of never being able to have an off night. It doesn't take anything away from Snyder to point that out. Lots more guys would be undefeated in college if they only wrestled two weekends plus a couple of hand picked duals each year. Edited January 28, 2018 by ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jstock 125 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 8 from PA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erminio8 42 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 8 from PA 9 I think...Cruz, Pletcher, Zacherl, Zain, Nolf, Kemerer, Hidlay, Joseph, Renda 1 jstock reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichB 189 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 I'd take Cruz off the list. Not really sure Stoll belongs on there, but ... Take Cruz of the list, but leave Hall on????????????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 Nolf is off the list. Injury Default and serious concern the knee injury that caused it may end his season. Hope he is OK and recovers quickly. Appears a freak accident torqued the knee a bit too much, not intentional on the part of his opponent from Rutgers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviator12 196 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 Snyder is an unbelievably talented wrestler. He might go down as the best the US has ever had. But he is barely a college wrestler and since his freshman season has basically only wrestled in the postseason plus an occasional match here and there. One big thing that he avoids by doing that is the grind of having to wrestle every week and the pressure of never being able to have an off night. It doesn't take anything away from Snyder to point that out. Lots more guys would be undefeated in college if they only wrestled two weekends plus a couple of hand picked duals each year.You do realize Snyder doesn’t “take off†anything during the season he just won the Yarygin, arguably the toughest tournament in the world, for the second year in a row. You can seriously say with a straight face Snyder is at an advantage not wrestling college amateurs over the toughests professionals in the world during the season, that’s an unfair advantage he has?? 3 TheOhioState, Paul158 and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,585 Report post Posted January 28, 2018 Well, the Yarygin is starting to become a JV tournament for Snyder, so the man has a point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 467 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Really sad to see Nolf—the most exciting and innovate wrestler in the NCAA—go down because of an injury default. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 179 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 You do realize Snyder doesn’t “take off†anything during the season he just won the Yarygin, arguably the toughest tournament in the world, for the second year in a row. You can seriously say with a straight face Snyder is at an advantage not wrestling college amateurs over the toughests professionals in the world during the season, that’s an unfair advantage he has?? Snyder is not competing every single week. Snyder does not go through the grind of a college wrestling season and has not done so since he was a freshman. Yes, that is an advantage. Especially when the conversation is about guys going undefeated. Snyder doesn't risk having an off night, or getting caught, or having to wrestle with a tweaked ankle, or whatever else. Going undefeated is impressive because it isn't just about talent. It is about consistency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,079 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Snyder is not competing every single week. Snyder does not go through the grind of a college wrestling season and has not done so since he was a freshman. Yes, that is an advantage. Especially when the conversation is about guys going undefeated. Snyder doesn't risk having an off night, or getting caught, or having to wrestle with a tweaked ankle, or whatever else. Going undefeated is impressive because it isn't just about talent. It is about consistency.Are you now claiming Snyder isn’t consistent? He has won 3 world level golds out of 3 tries If the point is he takes less risk because he doesn’t wrestle a full folk season, fine. I can’t prove he wouldn’t lose to random guys, but he has had 1 competitive match since freshman year and it was against a returning 2 timer who now has a world bronze. Who would’ve beatenb him, even on an off night? When did he skip a match he had any shot at losing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Myles Martin and Kollin Moore go down Edited February 4, 2018 by BigTenFanboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites