Eagle26 598 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Please let that other thread die... I hate even looking at the classless title. I know it's a long standing joke but come on he was just hurt. I'm ok with some reasonable speculation but keep the fake news out too. I'll start... Looked serious to me. I'm guessing something is torn but it wouldn't surprise me if he tries to rehab and then wrestle B1G and NCAA and get surgery afterwards. If he can't comeback, what are Penn States options? Verkleeran? 1 powershouse reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repechange 184 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 You can bet an MRI is happening asap if it didn't already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repechange 184 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Beyond that, it depends on if there is a tear and what is torn. Edited January 29, 2018 by repechange Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 sorry, but there won't be any updates. If he's done, the only option PSU has is to go for 2nd place. They won't pull anyone. It'd be Pipher or Gardner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denger 363 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 I don't think this season is over yet, regardless of Nolf's health. I've been excited by the rankings and projected team scores, but we're still 5 weeks from conference champs and 7 from NCAAs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dougb 53 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 How does a team which STILL has 4 returning NCAA Champions, 1 who gets Bonus ALL the time and 3 that get Bonus most of the time, Along with a 197 pounder who won Southern Scuffle and is wrestling the best in his life pinning most people, and a 141 pounder who is on a tear beating good people by Bonus and looking like a contender in the wide open 141 pound division, How does a Team like that JUST CONCEDE the Team Title? Ohio State is likely favored now, but not a sure thing. 1 denger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 He's dead. 3 russelscout, scribe and bwh27 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Please let that other thread die... I hate even looking at the classless title. I know it's a long standing joke but come on he was just hurt. I'm ok with some reasonable speculation but keep the fake news out too. I'll start... Looked serious to me. I'm guessing something is torn but it wouldn't surprise me if he tries to rehab and then wrestle B1G and NCAA and get surgery afterwards. If he can't comeback, what are Penn States options? Verkleeran? Pretty weird that Nolf is the only 157 pounder on the team. Hell, I'd rather be a reserve at 157 than 149, can eat more. And PSU has 4 149 pounders behind Zain, not counting two guys that are co-listed as 141-149. Edited January 29, 2018 by TobusRex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 436 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 He's dead.So young. 1 russelscout reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 371 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Well hopefully it's not as serious as everyone fears, and he can be back to his old self in no time. I know that might be unrealistic, but we can hope optimistically. 1 NYWRESTLER94 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 689 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 At the moment the injury occurred, Nolf wasn’t wrenching in pain. I think his knee is sprained but ligaments stretched, not torn. Ice, rest, and smart rehab, he’ll be back in fighting shape in 4 weeks. Of course, time will tell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,479 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 At the moment the injury occurred, Nolf wasn’t wrenching in pain. I think his knee is sprained but ligaments stretched, not torn. Ice, rest, and smart rehab, he’ll be back in fighting shape in 4 weeks. Of course, time will tell. It's impossible to say just from the video. You can tear an ACL and not be wrenching in pain, and it's also possible to "only" have a sprain and be wrenching in pain. Some people just respond to pain differently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart1 2 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 is manville in the PSU wrestling room on a daily basis or focusing on greco? Is he certified to wrestle at 157? Is he just way to big for the weight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Witherman 384 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Posting my thoughts from the other thread - Definitely didn’t move enough to be a dislocation, and there was definitely a pop. You don’t see a pop for a tweak or a sprain. I’m thinking ACL or LCL. IF he comes back it will be wrestling purposely on a tore up knee. Not like it hasn’t been done before (Morningstar senior year) but would be a bad idea IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 676 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 I’m thinking ACL or LCL. IF he comes back it will be wrestling purposely on a tore up knee. Not like it hasn’t been done before (Morningstar senior year) but would be a bad idea IMO. With the bright future he has in the sport, wrestling on a bum knee now would be a terrible idea. If it is torn up then he needs to get it taken care, let it heal, and plan for the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alwayswrestling 227 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Hope it is not a season ending injury! Nolf is one of my favorites to watch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsnej 199 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 I am hoping Jason Nolf's injury is not serious and that he returns later this season but if it is here is a little inspiration... http://www.jordanburroughs.com/blog/injuries-suck-or-do-they-part-1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 670 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Even without Nolf PSU can still win the NCAA title. They are favored at 149, 165 and 184 and co favorite at 174. Lee, Shakur and Nevills can all place as well. Bucks are favored at Hvy and slight fave at 197. Nate and Myles are in the hunt. Bo falls in the 3-6 range. Micah, Hayes, McKenna and Pletcher can all AA but none are locks to do it. Add in PSU's predilection for bonus and I'd say they're still the slight fave. I feel badly for Nolf. He's such a marvelous performer but the injury appears significant. Perhaps it was just a sprain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tightwaist 390 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Posting my thoughts from the other thread - Definitely didn’t move enough to be a dislocation, and there was definitely a pop. You don’t see a pop for a tweak or a sprain. I’m thinking ACL or LCL. IF he comes back it will be wrestling purposely on a tore up knee. Not like it hasn’t been done before (Morningstar senior year) but would be a bad idea IMO. I agree, think it may be LCL, maybe ACL. I watched again and Van Brill actually scissors his knee (sort of traps it) and then lifts up on ankle which puts a ton of pressure on the outside of knee. I can't say it was dirty, but I've never seen someone scissor a leg in that situation. If I'm Nolf, I only come back if I am 90% there or better. His style is so wide open that he is always putting his joints in weird positions. Not the best style if you have a knee that can be tweaked pretty easily Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 179 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 It's impossible to say just from the video. You can tear an ACL and not be wrenching in pain, and it's also possible to "only" have a sprain and be wrenching in pain. Some people just respond to pain differently. Looked to me like he essentially got heel hooked. If the pop that appears to have happened actually happened he's done for the season. Though I guess an ACL is something that doesn't get worse, it just doesn't get better. He could put a big ole brace on it and try to wrestle with one leg the rest of the season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justafan 123 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Imagine he tore something and I think we see him at NCAA in a brace.Only way we dont see him at NCAA is if some how theres a bone break which I highly doubt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xander 346 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Get well soon J Nolf 1 Yellow_Medal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviator12 208 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 Nolf didn’t scream out in pain, but he did give a look as if he just saw a ghost. That was more telling to me then a scream. He knew something bad just really happened to his knee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,428 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 I wouldn't put mark hall as a 50/50 split with zahid and say bojo has no chance of doing better than 3rd. The two are 1 and 1 with hall's win coming with terrible officiating. Without nolf it's Ohio State that's in the driver's seat and in control of their destiny. I hope nolf returns sooner than later and fully recovers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 689 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 It's impossible to say just from the video. You can tear an ACL and not be wrenching in pain, and it's also possible to "only" have a sprain and be wrenching in pain. Some people just respond to pain differently. Let’s hope it’s only a sprain but you are definitely right regarding your explanation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
