Nickerson in his prime vs 125 field?

[headshuck 2,191]

125 is so deep this year. Or maybe there’s simply no veteran of the caliber of Nickerson before he messed up his shoulder. How about McDonough before he messes up his shoulder?

 

I think either would be firmly on top.

[hammerlockthree 2,037]

Thats the crummy thing about Nickerson, he never really had a prime. He got better though out his career and barely managed to maintain his effectiveness.  

[jcwrestlingfan 3]

Where would you fit Nico Megaludis in this? He went 2 2 3 1 @ NCAAs. I would assume he would rank very high among these individuals.

[russelscout 1,573]

The field. Nickerson was an elite recruit never really reached expectations because of injury. Amazing high school career. Still would consider lee and suriano as just as good if not better recruits coming in and maybe NATO also. McDonough is an interesting match for anyone when he is healthy. Hes long, high paced and scrambles well. Stylistically he brings challenges. But this weight class has too much young talent. 2 former champs and neither are ranked 1. Next year if fix comes into it, 125 will be even more interesting.

[Pinnum 796]

Is it just me, or have there been a high rate of 125s that have had shoulder injuries hinder their careers?

[jcwrestlingfan 3]

Here are a couple of others I would offer up...

 

Stephen Abas in his prime or the field?

 

Eric Guerrero wrestled 3 yrs @ 126, then 1 @ 133, so would you take the 125 field or Guerrero pre-133?

[russelscout 1,573]

If we are doing that, might as well throw 1990-1992 Terry Brands. Went 1-2-1 at 126 and a world title the next year

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[Zebra 545]

Is it just me, or have there been a high rate of 125s that have had shoulder injuries hinder their careers?

It is not just you. 

[russelscout 1,573]

How about field vs all multiple time champs at 125-126 since the 90's

90-92 Terry Brands 1-2-1

96-99 Eric Guerrero 5-1-1-1(133)

98-99 01-02 Stephan Abas 4-1-1-1

04-06 Joe Dubuque 8-1-1

10-12 Matt McDonough 1-2-1

12-14 Jesse Delgado 7-1-1

[hammerlockthree 2,037]

Where would you fit Nico Megaludis in this? He went 2 2 3 1 @ NCAAs. I would assume he would rank very high among these individuals.

 

Nico was great but he never really got better. Wrestled hard, great on bottom, horrible on top, just not a lot of evolving there. I don't think he was compares to the guys we are talking about.....

[hammerlockthree 2,037]

How about field vs all multiple time champs at 125-126 since the 90's

90-92 Terry Brands 1-2-1

96-99 Eric Guerrero 5-1-1-1(133)

98-99 01-02 Stephan Abas 4-1-1-1

04-06 Joe Dubuque 8-1-1

10-12 Matt McDonough 1-2-1

12-14 Jesse Delgado 7-1-1

Terry Brands Teched two returning NCAA Champions in his career....pretty amazing stat.

[russelscout 1,573]

Wish I would have been around in 91 to see him lose to Kelber. Not sure how big of an upset that was at the time.

[paboom 204]

Nico was great but he never really got better. Wrestled hard, great on bottom, horrible on top, just not a lot of evolving there. I don't think he was compares to the guys we are talking about.....

The biggest jump in Nico's career was during his true freshman season when he realized to beat the top D1 guys, he really had to up his tempo and intensity of his wrestling. Once he did that, he started beating the top guys all the way to the finals.

 

I agree, Nico is in the 2nd tier of career 125's.

 

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[Frank_Rizzo 326]

Never forget. 

 

[BigTenFanboy 1,710]

IMO Stephen Abas is the best of the best at 125..

[WildTurkey44 321]

I would take Matt McD over that field. Shame about his shoulder and having to wrestle a 57 pounder in the finals

[ionel 1,311]

Here are a couple of others I would offer up...

 

Stephen Abas in his prime or the field?

 

Eric Guerrero wrestled 3 yrs @ 126, then 1 @ 133, so would you take the 125 field or Guerrero pre-133?

 

125 and 126 are not the same weight class.  126 and 133 are equivalent, Guerrero and Brands shouldn't be in the mix.

 

If we are doing that, might as well throw 1990-1992 Terry Brands. Went 1-2-1 at 126 and a world title the next year

 

Edited February 1, 2018 by ionel

[russelscout 1,573]

Ok then, Sammy Hansen 2 timer at 118

[KTG119 819]

I'll take Abas as best 125er. Best 118/equivalent of modern day 125 hmmm...Henson? Prescott, Cuvo? Bonomo? Gene Mills? dang if I know. 

[josefsmoe 43]

Where would you fit Nico Megaludis in this? He went 2 2 3 1 @ NCAAs. I would assume he would rank very high among these individuals.

Seeing that Tomasello had multiple win over Megaludis I would say it is easy to leave him out. Not that he wasnt great

[Tofurky 596]

Prescott made a short journey to 126... until he faced Terry Brands. That was one serious butt whipping TB laid on JP.

 

 

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[Billyhoyle 1,987]

I would take 1-4 over both Nickerson and Mcdonough

[KTG119 819]

Prescott made a short journey to 126... until he faced Terry Brands. That was one serious butt whipping TB laid on JP.

 

 

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I've seen that video....I want to see their match that ended in double disqualification. 

[Peso 331]

I think if any of them could have 3 World age level titles, they would have had them.  I know its freestyle, but if he pulls it off this season in this field, he passes all of them.  I would like to believe the match-up beginning next season will be Schultz/Banach type of epic match.