hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) tell all tweet..... sorry i don't have an account to post link with Edited February 2, 2018 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUMike 445 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Here is a direct link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU_2hwuVQAAGQ_c.jpg:large Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUMike 445 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 I had no opinion on the issue but having read a very articulate and concise synopsis from Kanen, I believe he made the right decision. 2 TheOhioState and pjm46 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) sounds like it Edited February 2, 2018 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,429 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Ouch, puts a very negative spin on things for Iowa State. This is going to hurt their recruiting, I'm sure of it.. They need to develop some guys in a serious way and quick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xander 346 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 I think Iowa State should just drop wrestling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josefsmoe 43 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Was impressed when Dresser brought in an all-star coaching staff. My one question was if Metcalf had the temperament to coach. This one incident isn't enough for me to form a final opinion, but it does reflect poorly on him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,607 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Something doesn’t add up. Metcalf hasn’t ever shoved a teammate has he? Was something said in practice beforehand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Storr was actually doing a backflip in the locker room 21 headshuck, gromit, denger and 18 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhioSpladle 35 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Although this looks bad for the Iowa State staff, wouldn't it still be illegal for the paulsons to have contact with another teams wrestler? 2 rhino184 and Greatdane67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Well should they get fired for soliciting a transfer? Yes. Should they get fired for giving solicited advice to a former mentee? No. you'd have to read the texts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviator12 208 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Too bad David Carr already signed his L.O.I. Edited February 2, 2018 by Aviator12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatdane67 217 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 That Twitter post should be titled, "Sonnet of a snowflake." He just unwittingly confirmed NCAA violations on behalf of the Paulsons. I stand by previous statements that the NCAA will most likely allow him to transfer anywhere but Virginia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Lol Metcalf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,181 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 I know Kanen and his family and he's anything but a "snowflake" but I guess others know him better than I do. Hard-working, clean-living kid who showed during his 25-5 redshirt year he has the stuff. A coach shoving a kid in the situation described? Classless and unprofessional, a total d!ck move. Telling a kid he has until the next morning to request a waiver or he won't get one later? Blackmail, KGB tactic. No question the fit with the new coaching staff was not right, but the tactics used to force the kid out were an embarrassment to the profession. You can call Kanen a "snowflake" but nowhere in my years of knowing him is he a liar or someone who embellishes the truth. I come on this board and regularly listen to "experts" trash coaches because they're not winners. The late Rande Stottlemyer, for example, took tons of heat and was called everything but a good coach. Knowing Rande briefly and then listening to his former wrestlers speak to his abilities as a teacher, his decency as a person, his imparting of lessons that transcended wrestling, I'll take a "loser" like him every day of the week over manipulative, conniving, cut-throat, douche bag "winners." 8 ConnorsDad, TheOhioState, PSUMike and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,029 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Does anyone have video of the “shove� Edit: Or his last match? Edited February 2, 2018 by wrestlingphish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unbiased 516 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1108774/temp-320-60161878.gif It was clearly a shove. Edited February 2, 2018 by unbiased 5 NYWRESTLER94, ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying, pjm46 and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,838 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Metcalf was trying to be a tough-love mentor. Which I’m sure he learned it from brands...Who do it half-assed. Because they learned it from gable, who actually did it extremely well. 1 ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 689 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Doesn’t make Dresser look like a smart man. He had to know what transpired and should have kept his mouth shut after the kid left ISU. I hope they don’t try and trash Kanen’s character. Metcalf may have destroyed his coaching career. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Notice in this relationship that went south the coaches pushed, harassed, were unwilling to listen, didn't care enough to give feedback... Kanen did nothing and was simply a victim of a poor coaching and bullying. Why do I find that hard to believe? In his "I am a victim of unethical treatment" manifesto, he gave no reason why he was being picked on. Hmmm... weird 1 buf87 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGranby 221 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 If this turns out to be 100% factual, and not a POV deal, and I'm Dresser - I'm firing Metcalf, or getting the AD to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 For shoving him towards the locker room? Did he fall down? Nope. Was it excessively violent? Doesnt give any reason to believe so. It was infront of people sooooo no body thought of this as a violation and now a kid says shove on Twitter and iGranby is ready to fire people. 2 NYWRESTLER94 and 9insoft reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 563 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 When in Iowa do as Iowans' do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGranby 221 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) I mean, its just my opinion. The guy put hands on a kid unprovoked (from what Kanen said), he's known(I guess more so perceived) as a hothead, and from a PR/ Recruiting standpoint, will kids want to go to a place where they're shoved around after a tough loss? I get that this is in a vacuum as of right now, and thats why I said "if this is factual... if its not just how Kanen saw it...etc" Then, I didnt even get into this idea of him being strong armed out of the program. Again, that's a thing where it very well could have went down different and it only sounds that bad from Storr's point of view - so who knows. At the very least - if the kid is full of crap they(Iowa State) should let it be known. Edited February 2, 2018 by iGranby 1 LemonPie reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 2, 2018 Do you think Kanen really felt unsafe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites