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#21 Ching

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 02:20 AM

"Walking around weight..." is the most ridiculous metric thrown around in the wrestling community.

 

#1 Wrestlers are notorious liars about this weight. They round up, they use the maximum they have ever seen on a scale, or they just make it up.

#2 Even if accurate, it only is relevant if they give you an accurate body fat percentage at that weight.

 

If Steiber and Fix are serious about the WC's, they will get down to weight.


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#22 2td3nf

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:17 AM

"Walking around weight..." is the most ridiculous metric thrown around in the wrestling community.
 
#1 Wrestlers are notorious liars about this weight. They round up, they use the maximum they have ever seen on a scale, or they just make it up.
#2 Even if accurate, it only is relevant if they give you an accurate body fat percentage at that weight.
 
If Steiber and Fix are serious about the WC's, they will get down to weight.


Ching, I disagree. Cutting weight is a huge (and probably the worst part) of the sport.

As far as Stieber, I tend to agree with Ogalthorpe. Did Logan peak and reach his prime in 2016? Did the weight cut to 61 drain him physically? Can he bounce back, readjust and compete for the 65 spot again?

As for Fix, when was the last time he cut to 125? Again I could be 100% wrong on this one and maybe Daton has every intention of staying down at 57, but if I had to pick my 2018 American World Cup/World Championship team right now, I'd pencil in Spencer at 57 and Daton at 61.

#23 2td3nf

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:35 AM

Why would he bump up after wrestling his redshirt year at 125? Makes no sense. 125 is his best weight. That's where he had the most success (junior world gold in dominant fashion, beat Tomasello for the U23 team, etc.) and after getting beat soundly at the U23 Worlds this summer, what makes you think he'll want to bump up to face even bigger guys when he's been cutting to 125 just months before the freestyle season kicks off for our college guys?


Nerd, it may turn out that you're right here. I have no inside info on Daton's weight or his weight class plans.

But when I see a guy like Haji Aliev win at 61, then go down and win at 57, then go back up and win at 61 and even go up to 65 and win, there's no question in my mind that Daton could compete at 61, especially if he truly was walking around at 140's last year. Yes, I know I'm using one of the best p4p in the world in Aliev as an example, but still.

#24 wrestlingnerd

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 10:10 AM

I have no doubt Fix would be competitive at 61. Even despite the bad U23 result. I’m really not trying to argue with you either. I just don’t see any way Fix sees 61 before he gives 57 seniors a good run first. I can see him deciding to try 61 instead if he can’t make the team at 57, but not before that.

Fix’s low 140s wasn’t a lie. I believe he weighed in around that for Beat the Streets, albeit with clothes on.

Edited by wrestlingnerd, 04 February 2018 - 10:55 AM.

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#25 vsnej

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 12:28 AM

got to put Cassar in as a possible threat at 92 kg


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#26 Ching

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 03:22 AM

Where the H-E-Double Hockey sticks is this Dayton at 61 convo coming from?? He has freaking wrestling 125 THIS SEASON! Making scratch 125.

 

We've got a world silver medalist and a world gold medalist at 57 and 61kg right now. Those two individuals will have to be dealt with before anyone takes those spots.


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#27 treep2000

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 05:15 AM

Still predicting Moore over Cox, treep?

 

He has the skill set... but probably not... sad day in "treepland". 



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Posted 05 February 2018 - 05:43 AM

57 Gilman over Terao
61 Garrett over Ramos
65 Steiber over Maple
70 Green over Molinaro
74 Burroughs over IMart
79 Dake over Hall
86 Taylor over Dean
92 Heflin over Cox
97 Snyder over Burak
125 Gwiz over Bradley

EDIT: If Jordan Oliver is somehow allowed to compete for a world team spot, I think he'll be our rep.

Edited by pamela, 05 February 2018 - 05:44 AM.


#29 Coach_J

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 05:53 AM

Personal opinion, but I think Fix is too short to take on the biggest and best at 61 right now.  When he gets to a point he is dominating 57 on a regular basis, both internationally and nationally, we can talk about 61.  He's not there yet.


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 06:01 AM

fix hasnt grown in 5 years... in HS he was walking around low 40s... if i had to guess based on looks, he is staying closer to weight now... he looks leaner in the face...

 

he is a career 57...






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