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#1 nom

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:39 PM

See wrestlingreport Cornell forum. Koll says Yianni is most talented wrestler to ever where the Cornell singlet. Apologizes to Dake.

Damn. I know Koll picked Yianni in the hypothetical match up but this is a pretty solid ‘all-in’ statement. I have to give credit to Koll for being willing to be bold with his statements and updates. He has a sharp eye. I’m excited to see whether his perspective neatly translates to better results. Recognizing Dake didn’t have a weight class at 141 like Yianni does this year.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:46 PM

I thought Dakes 141 field was very good.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:47 PM

I don’t necessarily agree yianni is more talented. Watching Dake scramble was like watching cats always landing on their feet.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:54 PM

Was Dake ever put on his back?

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:56 PM

By his girlfriend
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:23 PM

See wrestlingreport Cornell forum. Koll says Yianni is most talented wrestler to ever where the Cornell singlet. Apologizes to Dake.

Damn. I know Koll picked Yianni in the hypothetical match up but this is a pretty solid ‘all-in’ statement. I have to give credit to Koll for being willing to be bold with his statements and updates. He has a sharp eye. I’m excited to see whether his perspective neatly translates to better results. Recognizing Dake didn’t have a weight class at 141 like Yianni does this year.

 

 

You need to apply the Koll Discount of 20% to everything he puts into those reports, unfortunately.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

Was Dake ever put on his back?

 

He got pinned by Donnie Vinson



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:43 PM

Yianni is elite for sure. He might be more naturally gifted, but I think Dake was one of those guys who grabs you and you say "WTF". Freakish strength combined with insane competitiveness.

141 is so tough this year. Yianni could win it, or take 5th.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:44 PM

He got pinned by Donnie Vinson

At 149 pounds, No. 2 Kyle Dake took on No. 12 Donnie Vinson. Dake grabbed an early takedown, but Vinson escaped in the first period. Midway through the first period, Dake was hit with his first stalling warning . Dake chose to start the second down and immediately escaped. The Big Red wrestler was hit with his second stalling at the end of the second to give Vinson another point. Vinson chose to start the third at neutral and with 30 seconds left in the bout, the match was tied when Dake was hit with his third stalling call. Vinson took down Dake quickly after the call to win a 5-3 decision. 


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#10 hammerlockthree

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:48 PM

Um......at the 23 hour mark vinson super ducked dake and ran a half on him and pinned him!



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:51 PM

At 149 pounds, No. 2 Kyle Dake took on No. 12 Donnie Vinson. Dake grabbed an early takedown, but Vinson escaped in the first period. Midway through the first period, Dake was hit with his first stalling warning . Dake chose to start the second down and immediately escaped. The Big Red wrestler was hit with his second stalling at the end of the second to give Vinson another point. Vinson chose to start the third at neutral and with 30 seconds left in the bout, the match was tied when Dake was hit with his third stalling call. Vinson took down Dake quickly after the call to win a 5-3 decision. 

 

I looked it up you're right. I don't know where I got that idea.



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:27 PM

Most talented doesn't necessarily translate to "always wins" or even "the best."   One can make make the case some of the "most talented" (skill sets, technique, creativity, etc.) individuals (e.g., David Taylor in folkstyle or Russia's Karelin in freestyle ) have taken losses to "less talented" (maybe Cox; perhaps even Dake or Rulon Gardner in the other instance) wrestlers.   Same holds in team sports like soccer (e.g., Brazil's talented squads) or hockey (US Olympic team in 1980 over Soviet Union).   So, perhaps Yianni is more talented than Dake even if he doesn't win four (or one) title.



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:39 PM

dake's got bigger triceps than yianni


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#14 hammerlockthree

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:45 PM

thank god someone had the balls to say it.....


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:50 PM

Was Dake ever put on his back?

 

In every hypothetical match against DT!! 



#16 BigTenFanboy

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:02 PM

Was Dake ever put on his back?


A few times by Burroughs.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:02 PM

In every hypothetical match against DT!!


Those hypotheticals expired a long time ago.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:10 AM

Was Dake ever put on his back?

 

He took himself to his back against Montell Marion in the ncaa finals but ended up winning the scramble and getting the TD. 



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:21 AM

He took himself to his back against Montell Marion in the ncaa finals but ended up winning the scramble and getting the TD.


If I recall correctly, it was actually Montell who hit like a high-c or a double and drove Dake to his back, dead to rights. It was only then that Dake was able to somehow finagle a takedown off of that. Incredible hip power, proprioception, and scrambling ability.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:16 AM

He got pinned by Donnie Vinson

No he did not.






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