Heisenberg 22 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 We just finished another NCAA season. Which wrestlers competing were future Olympians/World team members? (Other then Snyder, obviously) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,181 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Look at all the guys who have been on senior or age-group world teams: IMart, Snyder, Micic. Diakamaholis, Coon, Lee, Zain, Hall. Nearly all the others placed at/won in Fargo or took part in the World/Olympic trials. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 371 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Well, maybe Zahid. With the new 79 kg weight class, does he make a run at Kyle Dake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikePorcelli 27 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Well, maybe Zahid. With the new 79 kg weight class, does he make a run at Kyle Dake? That will be his weight class until he bulks up to 184 lbs. Then, he can transition better to 189 lbs. for the Olympics in 2020. Probably more of a lock for 2024 but these young kids can handle world class athletes and that stage right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin 1,466 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 maybe some NCAA winners will compete at world cup...MAYBE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,039 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Besides Snyder you had four other champs who have won cadet/junior world gold. Two other finalists who have won medals. And that's just the finalists. There were other medalists in the field, including a reigning U23 gold. The future is bright. And I think we owe a lot of that to coach Slay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,480 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Besides Snyder you had four other champs who have won cadet/junior world gold. Two other finalists who have won medals. And that's just the finalists. There were other medalists in the field, including a reigning U23 gold. The future is bright. And I think we owe a lot of that to coach Slay. For those of us not in the know, what has Slay done? Most of these guys weren’t training out of the OTC under him. Was he the guy encouraging them to compete internationally and win cadet/junior medals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 22 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Besides Snyder you had four other champs who have won cadet/junior world gold. Two other finalists who have won medals. And that's just the finalists. There were other medalists in the field, including a reigning U23 gold. The future is bright. And I think we owe a lot of that to coach Slay. Could you name those you're referring too for those that don't follow cadet/juniors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tec87 349 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Could you name those you're referring too for those that don't follow cadet/juniors?125: Lee is a 2x junior world champ133: Micic junior world bronze 141: Yianni was a cadet world champ and probably would have won another if not for coming off injury 149: Retherford was the senior world team rep 149: Deakin was a junior world silver medalist last year 165: Martinez was 5th at 74kg at U-23 worlds 165: Richie Lewis was the 70kg champ at u-23 worlds 174: Hall is a 2x junior world champ 174: Valencia junior world silver 197: Moore junior world bronze 285: Coon was a cadet world champ and a double junior world bronze in free and Greco 285: Dhesi was also a junior world medalist for Canada There may be others that I’m blanking on but I think this is it. Edit: Junior world champ Daton Fix redshirted this year so he will be 125/133 Edited March 18, 2018 by tec87 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripNSweep 765 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Dhesi was a junior world champion. 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 125: Lee is a 2x junior world champ 133: Micic junior world bronze 141: Yianni was a cadet world champ and probably would have won another if not for coming off injury 149: Retherford was the senior world team rep 149: Deakin was a junior world silver medalist last year 165: Martinez was 5th at 74kg at U-23 worlds 165: Richie Lewis was the 70kg champ at u-23 worlds 174: Hall is a 2x junior world champ 174: Valencia junior world silver 197: Moore junior world bronze 285: Coon was a cadet world champ and a double junior world bronze in free and Greco 285: Dhesi was also a junior world medalist for Canada There may be others that I’m blanking on but I think this is it. Edit: Junior world champ Daton Fix redshirted this year so he will be 125/133 I kind of look for consistency: Lee. Hall. Valencia. Retherford. They have consistently shown over and over. Fix is also probably in this category but his U23 performance is head scratching. Yanni is in the conversation but his style doesn't really translate. Funk style wrestlers from the US don't have a good history outside of Abas. I left out Coon because I don't think his future is wrestling. He has bigger goals and aspirations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tec87 349 Report post Posted March 18, 2018 Dhesi was a junior world champion. Yeah if I remember correctly Dhesi actually beat Coon i think in the Semis at junior worlds and then Dhesi got throttled in the finals but the Champ got popped for PEDS. Didn’t remember that they actually bumped Dhesi to gold. Nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,872 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 McKee was a world junior silver IIRC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 22 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 I left out Coon because I don't think his future is wrestling. He has bigger goals and aspirations. What does this mean? NFL or walk on Mars? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,039 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 Up until him taking the job at the Penn RTC, Slay was in charge of our age group developmental program with USA wrestling. Many of those guys did train at the OTC, not full time like Snyder before he went to Ohio state, but they spent plenty of time in camps both for their own cadet/junior competitions, but also invitations for senior level camps. Slay has implemented a number of systems, in philosophy, in structure, and in technique development that have paid wonders. I think the proof is in the pudding with the rising level of our success on the world stage in the age group competitions, and also is shown with the number of freshmen/younger athletes that have won NCAA titles recently. 1 de4856 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,039 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 125: Lee is a 2x junior world champ 133: Micic junior world bronze 141: Yianni was a cadet world champ and probably would have won another if not for coming off injury 149: Retherford was the senior world team rep 149: Deakin was a junior world silver medalist last year 165: Martinez was 5th at 74kg at U-23 worlds 165: Richie Lewis was the 70kg champ at u-23 worlds 174: Hall is a 2x junior world champ 174: Valencia junior world silver 197: Moore junior world bronze 285: Coon was a cadet world champ and a double junior world bronze in free and Greco 285: Dhesi was also a junior world medalist for Canada There may be others that I’m blanking on but I think this is it. Edit: Junior world champ Daton Fix redshirted this year so he will be 125/133 Retherford has a cadet world gold as well, and I believe McKenna and McKee both have junior world bronze if I remember right. Edited March 19, 2018 by Lurker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,039 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 What does this mean? NFL or walk on Mars? He has said, even as recent as after his match last night, that he wants to train for the Olympics first. Believe he's leaning more toward Greco. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Best prospects 57- Lee, Fix 61- Micic (Gross/Brock too big) 65- Yianni, Zain 70- Nolf 74- ton of good, not great prospects 79- Zahid, Hall 86- Bo, Martin 92- Moore 97- Warner 125- Coon (Steveson next year) Edited March 19, 2018 by LemonPie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 774 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) I kind of look for consistency: Lee. Hall. Valencia. Retherford. They have consistently shown over and over. Fix is also probably in this category but his U23 performance is head scratching. Yanni is in the conversation but his style doesn't really translate. Funk style wrestlers from the US don't have a good history outside of Abas. I left out Coon because I don't think his future is wrestling. He has bigger goals and aspirations.Yianni can wrestle the funk series, but it's certainly not his bread and butter technique. He's very technical in nuetral with varied attacks. I would say Eierman relies on his funk series too much. Although he could beat just about anyone if he's hot. 65 kg should be very interesting in 2020. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Edited March 19, 2018 by cjc007 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 What does this mean? NFL or walk on Mars? Coon says he wants to become an Astronaut. Reality is that space flight is severely weight limited. He is probably too heavy and too big both for space flight. Would have to come up with much larger flight gear for him. Possibly re-size or redesign some of the seats, bedding or equipment for a man his size. A nice goal to become an Astronaut but I would be very surprised if it happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 347 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Zahid vs Bo. Who wins that? Rumor is Bo is going 174 at WTT. So there you now have Bo, Zahid, Dake and Ringer!!! Dake easily? Hall is at 163. Edited March 19, 2018 by PRyan2012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tofurky 622 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 I'd like to see more of Cenzo making a run at things. One might think that Kendall Cross is chomping at the bit to work with him. ;) 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kad 6 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 Coon says he wants to become an Astronaut. Reality is that space flight is severely weight limited. He is probably too heavy and too big both for space flight. Would have to come up with much larger flight gear for him. Possibly re-size or redesign some of the seats, bedding or equipment for a man his size. A nice goal to become an Astronaut but I would be very surprised if it happens. The tallest astronaut was 6'4" and the heaviest at launch was 89.3kg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 774 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 Zahid vs Bo. Who wins that? Rumor is Bo is going 174 at WTT. So there you now have Bo, Zahid, Dake and Ringer!!! Dake easily? Hall is at 163.Zahid has beaten Bo before 11/0 and 1/0 fwiw. Hall has said he's not cutting to 163. He's not beating Zahid or Dieringer, let alone Dake. I'd give Cenzo a better chance at beating Dake because Cenzo goes all out while Hall wrestles too conservatively. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 my bad didn't see this topic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
