Zahid/Hall, who cuts the most weight?

[nyum 235]

On the most recent FRL all of the guys seemed pretty adamant that Zahid is in fact smaller than Mark and that the idea that he is bigger is more or less perpetuated by the PSU fan base—thoughts?

[gowrestle 636]

My eyes tell me Zahid is bigger than Hall.

[Sheerstress 101]

Zahid is very slender, which sometimes makes him look taller than his 5' 10".  

[MidwestMauler 1]

Hall wouldn't be a big 57 pounder.

[TobusRex 1,844]

Zahid looks bigger. The only part of Hall that's bigger is his enormous cranium.

[steamboat_charlie 727]

Lol.  Zahid isn't sucking tons of weight. Not dissimilar to Bo Jordan. Some of these dudes are just hollow. 

[Coach_J 2,053]

Hall has big legs but, man, Zahid looks enormous.  Tall, wide back, to me could easily be 184 or even 197 with some weights.

[BigRedMachine 210]

Hall looks smaller than Anthony Robles and he made 125 comfortably.

[Sheerstress 101]

Hall looks smaller than Anthony Robles and he made 125 comfortably.

 

 

If Anthony Robles had two legs, he probably would have been a 157 pounder.

[scribe 1,655]

Zahid looks bigger. The only part of Hall that's bigger is his enormous cranium.

 

Hall's melon could wrestle 125.

[MSU158 1,531]

Hall's melon could wrestle 125.

Although your head is in the right place, you should have said it would have to cut to make 125, considering it is the lowest weight class and "melon" could therefor be considerably less than that!

[headshuck 2,197]

Wow, he’d be impossible to score on.

[scribe 1,655]

They say wrestling is 95% mental. He is already an all time great.

[PRyan2012 343]

On any other team Hall would be wrestling 165. In their senior careers Zahid will be 174/189. Hall will be 163 where he won his world titles. I even think he could make 154 if he had to. Hall was just that good that he didn't cut weight because he was the best-never had to. There is an obvious size difference. It was not always that way though with them growing up. They may not wrestle ever again if Zahid goes to 184 next season. Zahid and Bo are the exact same size. Look at their NCAA title picture. 174, 184 and 197 champs all look the exact same size. 

[dtl38 79]

I thought Hall said he would never wrestle 74 kg again

[wiedsworld 14]

I thought Hall said he would never wrestle 74 kg again

you are correct. Hall stated the cut is too much for him and he would never wrestle 74K again

[CA_Wrestler 239]

Hall's melon could wrestle 125.

That's for sure.  That's why people say Hall looks small.  His dome is gigantic compared to his body, proportion-wise, so it makes his body look much smaller than it really is.

[xander 346]

The human head weighs 8 pounds. Source: that little kid in the movie jerry maguire. So Hall is considerably above average according to scribe, headshuck, and msu158

Edited March 31, 2018 by xander

[T-nigs23 90]

On any other team Hall would be wrestling 165. In their senior careers Zahid will be 174/189. Hall will be 163 where he won his world titles. I even think he could make 154 if he had to. Hall was just that good that he didn't cut weight because he was the best-never had to. There is an obvious size difference. It was not always that way though with them growing up. They may not wrestle ever again if Zahid goes to 184 next season. Zahid and Bo are the exact same size. Look at their NCAA title picture. 174, 184 and 197 champs all look the exact same size.

If the guy kills himself to make 74kg what makes you think he could make 165 for a full college season. Hall is a 174 pounder plain and simple.

[GoNotQuietly 891]

If the guy kills himself to make 74kg what makes you think he could make 165 for a full college season. Hall is a 174 pounder plain and simple.

If what others here say is true, and Hall doesn’t cut ever, any cut would probably feel like he is killing himself subjectively. That said, cutting hard is stupid.

 

Zahid looks monsterous, but he doesn’t carry as much in his hips and legs, so it’s hard to tell how much he is cutting. Has anyone ever seen his face drawn out and zombified? I don’t recall ever seeing it

[Billyhoyle 1,988]

Zahid has had a lot of success at 84 kg, so I have to figure he is cutting hard to make 74 kg.  He also looked a weight class above Hall in the finals.  It's possible he just has excellent discipline in terms of dieting to maintain a low body fat percentage and isn't cutting much in the week before his weigh ins. 

 

Either way, I think Hall's best bet to make the team is to go 74 kg and hope father time finally catches up to JB.  Don't see him beating Zahid at 79 kg.

[george 4]

I was talking to some PSU parents at NCAAs.   I commented about how big Valencia looks and how he must cut a ton.  They said Penn State kids who have worked out with the Valencia's during offseason were surprised that he really does not cut a ton of weight.  They said he was much closer to competition weight than anyone would guess.

[headshuck 2,197]

Sounds like a discipline thing. Congrats continue.

[LemonPie 1,368]

If you believe track's certification info, both Hall and Valencia weighed over 184. Probably similar in weight.

[T-nigs23 90]

If what others here say is true, and Hall doesn’t cut ever, any cut would probably feel like he is killing himself subjectively. That said, cutting hard is stupid.

 

Zahid looks monsterous, but he doesn’t carry as much in his hips and legs, so it’s hard to tell how much he is cutting. Has anyone ever seen his face drawn out and zombified? I don’t recall ever seeing it

I haven't heard that but I have heard that Hall himself said the cuts to 74kg are too much. It could be a discipline issue but it could also be that the cut is just too much. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Some guys are just some compact mofos. I would bet that's the case with mark but who knows.