GuillermoBilletas 149 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 http://intermatwrestle.com/articles/19999?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Essentially, at this point- there are no rules Sopranos must've got to the NCAA 3 Voice_of_the_Quakers, Tofurky and spladle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_of_the_Quakers 87 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 6th years in all NCAA sports are getting ridiculous. Time to simplify... The average undergrad (not just student-athletes) takes five years to graduate. Give all D-1 athletes five years to compete, no redshirts, and let the clock start when they first step foot on campus. Let D-2 and D-3 have different clocks for kids who come and go. I can be talked into exceptions for religious missions, but that's about it. 1 boconnell reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmsu34 16 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 6th years in all NCAA sports are getting ridiculous. Time to simplify... The average undergrad (not just student-athletes) takes five years to graduate. Give all D-1 athletes five years to compete, no redshirts, and let the clock start when they first step foot on campus. Let D-2 and D-3 have different clocks for kids who come and go. I can be talked into exceptions for religious missions, but that's about it. In your example you have 5 years, why make exceptions? Go on your mission during that span and compete the other 4. 1 jchapman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambatte 49 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 I tend to agree, five years to complete four years eligibility is enough. Mormon missions are usually 18 months, so perhaps going on your mission before enrolling would be advisable. Unlike one-and-done superstar basketball players, at least these sixth year student/athletes are matriculating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 651 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 I’m glad Ashnult received the extra year but 6 years in college is really too much time. Unless the athlete ends up with a highly marketable graduate degree (MBA, Nuclear Physics, etc.) the extra course work is just a waste of time. I feel college is a four year deal. I don’t even like redshirting. But, I’m just an old fashioned kinda guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tofurky 600 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 I can be talked into exceptions for religious missions, but that's about it. How about military service? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paboom 204 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Really bad especially when you consider there are D1 schools that give you 4.5 years max to graduate. Kind of makes a mockery at our false illusion of parity. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyum 238 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Mormon missions last 24 months for men and 18 months for women Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 702 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Get rid of the redshirt. You only get one if injured. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 1 gowrestle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 651 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Get rid of the redshirt. You only get one if injured. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Not really sure but 40+ years ago injury was the only way an athlete could get another year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 702 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 Not really sure but 40+ years ago injury was the only way an athlete could get another year.They're really not needed these days. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 790 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) I like how Rutgers and Ashnault all but declared he'd get a 6th year even before the season began. Did he even try to take the mat this season? He looked pretty good walking around in Cleveland to me. Methinks he came down with Zane/Heil-itis in October. Edited April 7, 2018 by lu_alum 2 Ogalthorpe Haywood and gowrestle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,612 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) The guy had to miss his whole senior year to injury. I would like to see EVERY guy that happens to, get another year. No idea why anyone is bothered by this at all.... Edited April 7, 2018 by MSU158 2 Eagle26 and Gantry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 651 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 I like how Rutgers and Ashnault all but declared he'd get a 6th year even before the season began. Did he even try to take the mat this season? He looked pretty good walking around in Cleveland to me. Methinks he came down with Zane/Heil-itis in October. He did have surgery and was legitimately injured. But looking at the field, he decided to go this route. I think you are correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 651 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 The guy had to miss his whole senior year to injury. I would like to see EVERY guy that happens to, get another year. No idea why anyone is bothered by this at all.... Not troubled at all. But when it comes to the TRUTH, we need to call it the way it is/was. 1 HurricaneWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle 179 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 What truth are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_of_the_Quakers 87 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) The guy had to miss his whole senior year to injury. I would like to see EVERY guy that happens to, get another year. No idea why anyone is bothered by this at all.... By traditional measures, his senior year was his 4th year at Rutgers, during which he earned his 3rd AA. He missed his 5th year, which we could also call his 2nd senior year. Now, he gets to have a 3rd senior year. We're approaching Blutarski territory, here. Edited April 7, 2018 by Voice_of_the_Quakers 3 Tofurky, gowrestle and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill 72 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 I like how Rutgers and Ashnault all but declared he'd get a 6th year even before the season began. Did he even try to take the mat this season? He looked pretty good walking around in Cleveland to me. Methinks he came down with Zane/Heil-itis in October. Most people can walk around perfect after shoulder surgery 1 tightwaist reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 790 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) Most people can walk around perfect after shoulder surgery My point has more to do with (1) when did the injury occur; and (2) how long did they wait to have the surgery to ensure he'd be out for the entire season? ... but maybe he had to get over the Zane/Heil-itis before going under the knife? Edited April 7, 2018 by lu_alum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 651 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 What truth are you talking about? The truth = what happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 361 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 Well Ashnault got a favorable decision, and no doubt this helps the Scarlet Knights next year with another returning AA in their lineup. It should be interesting to see how it plays out next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight 70 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 My point has more to do with (1) when did the injury occur; and (2) how long did they wait to have the surgery to ensure he'd be out for the entire season? ... but maybe he had to get over the Zane/Heil-itis before going under the knife? if he wins it next year can we agree he would have beaten Dean "DNP" Heil this year? It's unclear if he tried to come back, but he was hurt and the season was shot so next year he gets a full season and Rutgers gets 2 champs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 790 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 if he wins it next year can we agree he would have beaten Dean "DNP" Heil this year? It's unclear if he tried to come back, but he was hurt and the season was shot so next year he gets a full season and Rutgers gets 2 champs. I don’t see two finalists in the lineup. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight 70 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 I don’t see two finalists in the lineup. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 141 and 149 lost a lot of guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,006 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 I'm pretty sure Ashnault is the guy I beat in the first round at state in 1982. 3 lu_alum, squeek and southend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
