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Too lazy to research.... who is mason smith? I know he is from central Michigan, but what has he done?

https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/39789/smith-mason/profile

 

Season Summaries

Season Year School Rank Weight Class Record Win % Bonus %

2019 JR #6 Arizona State #10 141 0 - 0 .00 % .00 %

2018 SO #15 Central Michigan #12 141 31 - 7 81.58 % 36.84 %

2017 RSFR #19 Central Michigan #49 141 24 - 14 63.16 % 28.95 %

2016 FR #36 Central Michigan #78 149 17 - 7 70.83 % 41.67 %

Career  72 - 28 72.00 % 35.00 %

 

2018:

#10 Lee, Nick (33 - 7) #1 Penn State 03/15 NCAA Championships 141 L DEC 5 - 0

#11 Zacherl, Brock (30 - 3) #49 Clarion 03/15 NCAA Championships 141 L DEC 4 - 3

#23 Thorn, Thomas (18 - 13) #13 Minnesota 03/15 NCAA Championships 141 W DEC 3 - 0

#57 Perry, Sa'Derian (18 - 19) #45 Eastern Michigan 03/03 MAC Championships 141 W DEC 5 - 4

#1 Eierman, Jaydin (32 - 3) #7 Missouri 03/03 MAC Championships 141 L TF5 24 - 9 4:56

#67 Estevez, Jason (9 - 9) #55 Buffalo 03/03 MAC Championships 141 W DEC 3 - 1

#58 Profaci, Salvatore (12 - 15) #3 Michigan 02/18 Central Michigan - Michigan Dual 141 W DEC 6 - 5

#57 Perry, Sa'Derian (18 - 19) #45 Eastern Michigan 02/09 Eastern Michigan - Central Michigan Dual 141 W DEC 7 - 5

#180 Wohltman, Mason (11 - 9) #40 Old Dominion 02/04 Central Michigan - Old Dominion Dual 141 W FALL 2:52

#67 Estevez, Jason (9 - 9) #55 Buffalo 01/21 Buffalo - Central Michigan Dual 141 W DEC 7 - 0

#1 Eierman, Jaydin (32 - 3) #7 Missouri 01/19 Missouri - Central Michigan Dual 141 L DEC 6 - 0

#61 Guillen, Mario (10 - 6) #61 Ohio 01/07 Ohio - Central Michigan Dual 141 W DEC 7 - 1

#33 Carr, Mike (20 - 7) #23 Illinois 12/29 Midlands Invitational 141 W DEC 3 - 0

#8 Smith, Tyler (29 - 6) #62 Bucknell 12/29 Midlands Invitational 141 W DEC 5 - 4

#34 Weaver, Cole (27 - 12) #51 Indiana 12/29 Midlands Invitational 141 W DEC 6 - 0

#64 Monserrat, Christian (19 - 16) #47 West Virginia 12/29 Midlands Invitational 141 W DEC 7 - 0

#74 Villarreal, Nicholas (11 - 18) #9 Arizona State 12/29 Midlands Invitational 141 W DEC 7 - 1

#17 Schilling, Colton (14 - 7) #69 Cal Poly 12/29 Midlands Invitational 141 W MD 11 - 1

#66 Muldoon, John (15 - 5) #71 Southern Illinois Edwardsville 12/18 Central Michigan - Southern Illinois Edwardsville Dual 141 W TF5 16 - 0 1:57

#50 Limmex, Nate (26 - 16) #31 Purdue 12/18 Central Michigan - Purdue Dual 141 W DEC 3 - 0

#293 Rubino, Anthony (1 - 23) #66 Northern Illinois 12/16 Central Michigan - Northern Illinois Dual 141 W FALL 1:27

TakedownLive Match Data #113 Hampton, Sam (5 - 7) #42 North Dakota State 12/10 Central Michigan - North Dakota State Dual 141 W FALL 4:14

TakedownLive Match Data #43 Pohlmeyer, Henry (23 - 11) #27 South Dakota State 12/08 Central Michigan - South Dakota State Dual 141 W DEC 5 - 4

#29 Zanetta, Nick (22 - 12) #22 Pittsburgh 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 W MFOR 0 - 0

#4 Meredith, Bryce (33 - 2) #24 Wyoming 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 L DEC 7 - 3

#23 Thorn, Thomas (18 - 13) #13 Minnesota 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 W FALL 2:23

#48 Stickley, Eli (20 - 14) #25 Wisconsin 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 W TF5 18 - 3 7:00

#74 Villarreal, Nicholas (11 - 18) #9 Arizona State 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 W TF5 18 - 2 2:42

Schulte, Andrew California Baptist (Calif) 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 W FALL 5:23

#24 Storr, Kanen (15 - 7) #57 Iowa State 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 L DEC 7 - 1

TakedownLive Match Data #82 Fitzgerald, Brendan (9 - 11) #2 Ohio State 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 W TF5 15 - 0 3:16

TakedownLive Match Data Huizar, Cameron Embry-Riddle (Ariz) 12/01 Cliff Keen Invitational 141 W TF5 24 - 4 4:50

TakedownLive Match Data #19 Moore, Brent (20 - 11) #10 Virginia Tech 11/19 Central Michigan - Virginia Tech Dual 141 W DEC 6 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #55 Hrisopoulos, Alex (14 - 6) #59 Michigan State 11/17 Michigan State - Central Michigan Dual 141 W TF5 16 - 0 7:00

TakedownLive Match Data #58 Profaci, Salvatore (12 - 15) #3 Michigan 11/05 Michigan State Open 141 W DEC 6 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #48 Stickley, Eli (20 - 14) #25 Wisconsin 11/05 Michigan State Open 141 W MD 11 - 2

TakedownLive Match Data #45 Longo, Michael (18 - 20) #39 Oklahoma 11/05 Michigan State Open 141 L DEC 6 - 3

#82 Fitzgerald, Brendan (9 - 11) #2 Ohio State 11/05 Michigan State Open 141 W TF5 18 - 2 7:00

Bavery, David Notre Dame (Ohio) 11/05 Michigan State Open 141 W DEC 7 - 2

2017 Season

 

TakedownLive Match Data #13 Cruz, Randy (22 - 9) #8 Lehigh 03/16 NCAA Championships 141 L DEC 5 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #77 Profaci, Salvatore (14 - 17) #16 Michigan 03/16 NCAA Championships 141 W MD 9 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #3 Ashnault, Anthony (30 - 6) #14 Rutgers 03/16 NCAA Championships 141 L DEC 8 - 3

TakedownLive Match Data #57 Springer, Kyle (15 - 11) #52 Eastern Michigan 03/04 MAC Championships 141 W DEC 7 - 3

#44 Forrider, Noah (27 - 8) #50 Ohio 03/04 MAC Championships 141 W DEC 3 - 2

TakedownLive Match Data #55 Budock, Kevin (20 - 15) #34 Old Dominion 03/04 MAC Championships 141 W DEC 4 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #157 Velasquez, Angel (11 - 15) #49 Northern Illinois 03/04 MAC Championships 141 L DEC 2 - 1

TakedownLive Match Data #83 Estevez, Jason (10 - 10) #44 Buffalo 03/04 MAC Championships 141 W DEC 7 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #37 Martin, Cole (19 - 17) #12 Wisconsin 02/19 Central Michigan - Wisconsin Dual 141 W DEC 7 - 4

TakedownLive Match Data #98 Driscoll, Chance (21 - 17) #56 Kent State 02/12 Kent State - Central Michigan Dual 141 W MD 11 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #57 Springer, Kyle (15 - 11) #52 Eastern Michigan 02/10 Central Michigan - Eastern Michigan Dual 141 W DEC 1 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #83 Estevez, Jason (10 - 10) #44 Buffalo 02/05 Central Michigan - Buffalo Dual 141 W MD 10 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #77 Profaci, Salvatore (14 - 17) #16 Michigan 02/02 Michigan - Central Michigan Dual 141 W MD 8 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #221 Rubino, Anthony (1 - 6) #49 Northern Illinois 01/29 Central Michigan - Northern Illinois Dual 141 W FALL 2:21

TakedownLive Match Data #55 Budock, Kevin (20 - 15) #34 Old Dominion 01/27 Old Dominion - Central Michigan Dual 141 L DEC 2 - 1

TakedownLive Match Data #6 Eierman, Jaydin (29 - 7) #6 Missouri 01/22 Central Michigan - Missouri Dual 141 L DEC 5 - 3

TakedownLive Match Data #22 Gasca, Javier (26 - 9) #45 Michigan State 01/20 Central Michigan - Michigan State Dual 141 L DEC 7 - 1

TakedownLive Match Data #147 Hodges, Jake (10 - 12) #22 Northern Iowa 01/15 Northern Iowa - Central Michigan Dual 141 W SV-1 6 - 4

TakedownLive Match Data #44 Forrider, Noah (27 - 8) #50 Ohio 01/08 Central Michigan - Ohio Dual 141 L DEC 2 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #61 Simon, Dresden (21 - 9) #19 Central Michigan 12/29 Midlands Championships 141 W DEC 16 - 14

TakedownLive Match Data #89 Lee, Robert (13 - 14) #26 Pittsburgh 12/29 Midlands Championships 141 L DEC 5 - 0

#118 Mutchnik, Jack (21 - 16) #47 American 12/29 Midlands Championships 141 L DEC 3 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #8 Meredith, Bryce (31 - 8) #39 Wyoming 12/02 Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invite 141 L MD 12 - 1

TakedownLive Match Data #263 Sage, Tyler (4 - 13) #15 Arizona State 12/02 Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invite 141 W FALL 0:57

#118 Mutchnik, Jack (21 - 16) #47 American 12/02 Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invite 141 L DEC 1 - 0

TakedownLive Match Data #47 Koll, William (18 - 15) #7 Cornell 12/02 Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invite 141 W DEC 6 - 2

#87 Britton, Jwan (20 - 11) #45 Michigan State 11/20 Michigan State Open 141 W DEC 2 - 1

#63 Brown, Reiley (14 - 11) #19 Central Michigan 11/20 Michigan State Open 141 W DEC 3 - 0

#61 Simon, Dresden (21 - 9) #19 Central Michigan 11/20 Michigan State Open 141 W FALL 3:21

#157 Velasquez, Angel (11 - 15) #49 Northern Illinois 11/20 Michigan State Open 141 L DEC 5 - 4

#155 Hagan, Nate (15 - 15) #13 Edinboro 11/20 Michigan State Open 141 W FALL 3:58

#289 Henry, Avery (0 - 8) #13 Edinboro 11/20 Michigan State Open 141 W FALL 2:15

Walker, Drew Notre Dame (Ohio) 11/20 Michigan State Open 141 W MD 10 - 2

TakedownLive Match Data #2 DiCamillo, George (24 - 5) #21 Virginia 11/13 Virginia - Central Michigan Dual 141 L MD 13 - 4

#125 Vargo, Collin (12 - 7) #19 Central Michigan 11/05 Eastern Michigan Open 141 W DEC 10 - 3

TakedownLive Match Data #22 Gasca, Javier (26 - 9) #45 Michigan State 11/05 Eastern Michigan Open 141 L DEC 9 - 4

#77 Profaci, Salvatore (14 - 17) #16 Michigan 11/05 Eastern Michigan Open 141 W DEC 13 - 7

TakedownLive Match Data #266 Todrank, Kyle (5 - 8) #42 Purdue 11/05 Eastern Michigan Open 141 W FALL 2:43

2016 Season

 

#200 Carter, Kenan (9 - 13) #28 Old Dominion 03/05  149 W MD 14 - 1

Willochell, Jake Seton Hill 03/05  149 W FALL 4:31

#56 Heilmann, Troy (19 - 8) #14 North Carolina 03/05  149 L DEC 4 - 2

#94 LaMont, Grant (14 - 11) #55 Utah Valley 03/05  149 W DEC 7 - 2

#41 Moon, Joe (12 - 6) #14 North Carolina 03/05  149 L DEC 9 - 2

#298 Lucie, Jack (7 - 10) #57 Army 03/05  149 W FALL 1:12

#71 Thompson, Austin (13 - 5) #64 Michigan State 01/23 Alma Open 149 W DEC 1 - 0

Newell, Kendall Heidelberg 01/23 Alma Open 149 W FALL 0:58

Bryant, Evyn Alma College 01/23 Alma Open 149 W FALL 1:10

Jasman, Ty Adrian 01/23 Alma Open 149 W FALL 1:55

Dailey, Zach Notre Dame (Ohio) 12/12 Cleveland State Open 149 W MFOR 0 - 0

#11 Oliver, Justin (33 - 7) #36 Central Michigan 12/12 Cleveland State Open 149 L DEC 13 - 11

#101 Sprague, Michael (24 - 9) #50 American 12/12 Cleveland State Open 149 L DEC 4 - 2

#232 Armenta, Joby (4 - 10) #68 Gardner-Webb 12/12 Cleveland State Open 149 W FALL 0:57

Elwood, Seth Notre Dame (Ohio) 11/15 Michigan State Open 149 W DEC 7 - 4

#118 Screptock, Richie (9 - 8) #36 Central Michigan 11/15 Michigan State Open 149 W DEC 6 - 4

#222 Clark, Miller (10 - 6) #45 Appalachian State 11/15 Michigan State Open 149 W FALL 4:14

#71 Thompson, Austin (13 - 5) #64 Michigan State 11/15 Michigan State Open 149 L MFOR 0 - 0

#157 Boylan, Collin (7 - 5) #20 Bucknell 11/15 Michigan State Open 149 L DEC 6 - 4

#157 Boylan, Collin (7 - 5) #20 Bucknell 11/15 Michigan State Open 149 L DEC 6 - 3

#281 Wysocki, Cole (8 - 11) #42 Purdue 11/15 Michigan State Open 149 W DEC 8 - 4

#71 Thompson, Austin (13 - 5) #64 Michigan State 11/07 Eastern Michigan Open 149 W DEC 7 - 1

#190 Reinemann, Isaac (6 - 8) #13 Illinois 11/07 Eastern Michigan Open 149 L DEC 7 - 2

#58 Wolfe, JJ (16 - 6) #44 Eastern Michigan 11/07 Eastern Michigan Open 149 W DEC 3 - 1

Lybarger, Mateo Tiffin University 11/07 Eastern Michigan Open 149 W FALL 1:28

Ohnmeiss, Cody Findlay 11/07 Eastern Michigan Open 149 W FALL 3:28

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Multiple time qualifier. Has a fairly good shot at making the podium.

Maybe a shot, but I wouldn't characterize his podium chances as a "fairly good shot" after consecutive R24 finishes at NCAA.

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Maybe a shot, but I wouldn't characterize his podium chances as a "fairly good shot" after consecutive R24 finishes at NCAA.

 

Down low on Smith is he wrestles position. Is good in all positions. Not a guy who will get tech'd or pinned. But not a guy who is a given to be an AA. Thinks Tsirtis light without the (legitimate and tragic) baggage or as strong. He shows up on radar with good wins in the season grind but hasn't shown the game to make it happen when it isn't just another dual or in season tournament. A great pick up if Jones could coach him up (haven't seen this out of Jones yet). Otherwise a solid pick up for solid performances without NCAA numbers to back it up. 

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Millhof looked like a small 125, doubt he could do anything at 133. On my mind now after the excitement of Mason Smith transferring in,

 

Where does that leave Navonte Demison?

 

He peaked as a Senior in HS. He may come around to be a solid addition to the dual line up, but not a sure thing AA guy. He showed a borderline dynamic style, versus boring Cali style of kids wrestling the same guys since tiny kids, and then never turned a corner. The exceptions in California are the kids who wrestled everywhere and and everybody (Valencias for example). A lot of Cali wrestling is Central Valley dominated and coaches in that area made a conscience decision to stay local and forgo national stuff and all international style wrestling. Good idea to win or place in California state. Not so much in getting kids ready for the next level.  Now they are finding that guys are not getting recruited. Others (like Belshay) can't adapt to the next level and implode. They may be rethinking this, just this year, but are now behind the curve.

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Millhof looked like a small 125, doubt he could do anything at 133. On my mind now after the excitement of Mason Smith transferring in,

 

Where does that leave Navonte Demison?

 

 

I watched him a few times mat side and I thought he was pretty average for 125 - He looked bigger than Bresser to me. 

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Maybe a shot, but I wouldn't characterize his podium chances as a "fairly good shot" after consecutive R24 finishes at NCAA.

Amazing how people ONLY  look at the NCAA tournament results.  Look at his progression each season AND who he lost to at NCAA's and how.

 

Now, no one is saying he is a lock, but he will be top 10 to start the season and I would say that puts you EXACTLY into the "fairly good shot" category.

 

Remember, a fairly good shot isn't the same as saying the odds of him AA'ing are fairly good.  It just means his chances are as good as anyone outside the top 6 or so.

 

Finally, 141 thins out a bit at the top with Meredith, Jack and Heil graduating.  Plus, there are some rumors that some may end up at 149.

 

After Yianni(may end up at 149), McKenna, Eierman and Lee, I would say he has as good a shot as anyone remaining.

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Amazing how people ONLY look at the NCAA tournament results. Look at his progression each season AND who he lost to at NCAA's and how.

 

Now, no one is saying he is a lock, but he will be top 10 to start the season and I would say that puts you EXACTLY into the "fairly good shot" category.

 

Remember, a fairly good shot isn't the same as saying the odds of him AA'ing are fairly good. It just means his chances are as good as anyone outside the top 6 or so.

 

Finally, 141 thins out a bit at the top with Meredith, Jack and Heil graduating. Plus, there are some rumors that some may end up at 149.

 

After Yianni(may end up at 149), McKenna, Eierman and Lee, I would say he has as good a shot as anyone remaining.

Point taken.

 

IMO, NCAA Results are a fairly good indicator of future performance.

 

I do disagree that he showed "progression" as his 2018 NCAA performance was exactly the same as 2017 NCAA (R24). He was still 3 quality wins from reaching the podium.

 

Maybe a different room will improve his chances ? Wish the best for him.

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Point taken.

 

IMO, NCAA Results are a fairly good indicator of future performance.

 

I do disagree that he showed "progression" as his 2018 NCAA performance was exactly the same as 2017 NCAA (R24). He was still 3 quality wins from reaching the podium.

 

Maybe a different room will improve his chances ? Wish the best for him.

You said point taken and then immediately used the same argument to dispute his progression. He was 30-5 going into NCAAs and was a Midlands Champ.

 

Compare that to 23-12(going into NCAAs) the year before and then barely over .500 his first year. His progression has been steady and considerable.

 

Hell, he was a 10 seed this past season, won his 1st Match and then lost 4-3 to the 7 seed and had the misfortune of drawing Lee immediately after that.

 

All that said, just watch a match or 2 from each year. The improvement is very obvious.

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You said point taken and then immediately used the same argument to dispute his progression..

You made some valid points about his losses at NCAA and 141 clearing out somewhat. Hence, "point taken".

 

That doesn't mean I agreed with 100% of your post. Get over it already.

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Zahid the man. Bring on the recruits to Tempe. The weather is great. And the wrestling and training is top notch.

Jacori Teemer will be a force. Courtney looked amazing. Zahid is a heavy favorite imo. Anthony may get on the podium in a weaker 165 class. Shields is s returning AA. Hall has a shot. Maruca is right there for a podium spot in a weaker 149. I don’t know what they will do at 125, but if one can bump to 133, ASU would have an AA contender (or returning AA) in 9 weights.

 

They will likely have 8 ranked guys to start the season. Super impressive.

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