paboom 204 Report post Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) I still see Smith at 157, he can arguably take 2nd this year and win it next year. I like Fix at 133 if he can fill the weight. 133 is going to be deep and he is good enough to win it still. Meanwhile Picc at 125 could finish as high as 2nd with a good run. Brock is good enough to win 141 and inconsistent enough to take 7th. There is still a lot up in the air about who will be at what weight for OSU - If history is any indicator you will see the guys going down to the lowest weight they can reasonably manage. The 2 biggest questions are can Jo Smith hold 157 and will Fix make 125. If the answer is yes to both of those I think you may see this lineup: 125 Fix 133 Brock 141 Gfeller 149 Lewallen 157 Joe Smith 165 Rodgers 174 Jacob Smith 184 Geer 197 Weigel Hwt White This is a line up that could compete for the national title even with PSU Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Edited May 17, 2018 by paboom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erminio8 42 Report post Posted May 17, 2018 There is still a lot up in the air about who will be at what weight for OSU - If history is any indicator you will see the guys going down to the lowest weight they can reasonably manage. The 2 biggest questions are can Jo Smith hold 157 and will Fix make 125. If the answer is yes to both of those I think you may see this lineup: 125 Fix 133 Brock 141 Gfeller 149 Lewallen 157 Joe Smith 165 Rodgers 174 Jacob Smith 184 Geer 197 Weigel Hwt White This is a line up that could compete for the national title even with PSU That's a brilliant lineup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Show_Me 261 Report post Posted May 17, 2018 Everything I have read indicates that Joe Smith will never see 157 again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,605 Report post Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Dude wrestled 174 at times last year right? So I can't see that either. Edited May 17, 2018 by Gantry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npope 156 Report post Posted May 18, 2018 Therein lies the folly of OSU's recent strategies for their lineup - they keep trying to move guys to weights where they ordinarily wouldn't belong; sometimes a team can get away with that on a couple of moves, but when you move guys out of their "comfort zone" not all guys, even some of the best, cannot function at the same level their reputation might suggest. Thus, while they may have a lineup full of "names," the results simply aren't there. The answer lies in the recruiting - they simply need to recruit for specific weights, as opposed to just collecting all of the biggest names they can - they need to let some talent go when there is a log jam at certain weights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d- 6 Report post Posted May 18, 2018 Therein lies the folly of OSU's recent strategies for their lineup - they keep trying to move guys to weights where they ordinarily wouldn't belong; sometimes a team can get away with that on a couple of moves, but when you move guys out of their "comfort zone" not all guys, even some of the best, cannot function at the same level their reputation might suggest. Thus, while they may have a lineup full of "names," the results simply aren't there. The answer lies in the recruiting - they simply need to recruit for specific weights, as opposed to just collecting all of the biggest names they can - they need to let some talent go when there is a log jam at certain weights. or let them grow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 759 Report post Posted May 18, 2018 Therein lies the folly of OSU's recent strategies for their lineup - they keep trying to move guys to weights where they ordinarily wouldn't belong; sometimes a team can get away with that on a couple of moves, but when you move guys out of their "comfort zone" not all guys, even some of the best, cannot function at the same level their reputation might suggest. Thus, while they may have a lineup full of "names," the results simply aren't there. The answer lies in the recruiting - they simply need to recruit for specific weights, as opposed to just collecting all of the biggest names they can - they need to let some talent go when there is a log jam at certain weights. Are you talking about OSU or PSU? Besides, isn't that called depth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dougb 46 Report post Posted May 19, 2018 What about Jered Cortez doesn't he have 1 more year of eligibility? I do not see him on the Penn State roster on Wrestlestat, he could probably help many teams meaning possibly be a All American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,605 Report post Posted May 19, 2018 He already transferred once, I think that complicates the situation a bit. Not sure the specifics though, I'll let someone smarter like Pinnum or SHP do the heavy lifting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,764 Report post Posted May 19, 2018 Cortez is done with college wrestling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler6 131 Report post Posted May 19, 2018 That’s leaves Skatska and Russell as the two big fish out there looking to transfer to my knowledge Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBluegill133 275 Report post Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) Cortez is done with college wrestling. Is he done because he is out of eligibility or because he isnt going to wrestle? Either way its disappointing. I wish he wouldve stayed at at Illinois. Edited May 20, 2018 by JBluegill133 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,605 Report post Posted May 20, 2018 He definitely has eligibility... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cangemi 221 Report post Posted May 20, 2018 Ok state good lineup Geer will Be real tough. What do they do Piccinni? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikePorcelli 26 Report post Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) Ok state good lineup Geer will Be real tough. What do they do Piccinni? That is the question. Will they go through a wrestle-off process or tell guys what weight they will wrestle. Nick could be in a log jam. The question is where is Fix going? If he goes 133 and everyone bumps up a class then I see Nick at 125. Nick is better suited for 125 than 133. Edited May 20, 2018 by MikePorcelli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingFan89 246 Report post Posted May 20, 2018 Sean Russell is going to Minnesota. 1 grappler6 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,605 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 That's an excellent fit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 967 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Jason Renteria has entered the free agent market per the interwebs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 430 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Jason Renteria has entered the free agent market per the interwebs. What was his deal missing weight at NCAA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aknipp 113 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 What was his deal missing weight at NCAA? Reportedly beginning of the season he was 150+ and had trouble all year. Still a poor time to miss weight. He will be looking at a place where he can wrestle 141, at NU he would have had to wait for Red to move up to 149. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted May 23, 2018 Sean Russell Minnesota Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 759 Report post Posted May 24, 2018 Fred Green Virginia to Oregon State Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,576 Report post Posted May 24, 2018 That is his third Fred Green Virginia to Oregon State That is his third D1 school. The NCAA needs to get rid of the rules and do everything case by case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 1,659 Report post Posted May 24, 2018 Boise State transfer was a free one since the program was cut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler6 131 Report post Posted May 27, 2018 That’s leaves Skatska and Russell as the two big fish out there looking to transfer to my knowledge Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Skatska and Russell to MN :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 headshuck and MNRodent reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
