MSU158 1,533 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 These guys aren't robots. When they show a significant decline, there is usually something pretty signifcant causing it. Here is a little excerpt from http://intermatwrestle.com/articles/20055 Courts returned for his senior season as a favorite to repeat as an All-American. However, it was clear from the start that it was going to be a struggle. "I came in 30 pounds overweight," Courts said. "The whole season was basically a lot of running on the treadmill, a lot of bad matches, and that really killed my love for the sport. I went 0-2 that season at Nationals, after coming into the season ranked fifth. I actually lost my wrestle-off that year to a freshman. After that season, I was over it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 560 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 Ok I get it. The political correct definition is "reasons" no more "excuses" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,533 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 Ok I get it. The political correct definition is "reasons" no more "excuses" So, having to cut 30lbs is an "excuse"? Interesting...........I thought we were past that mentality when it came to weight cutting. I guess not....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie 727 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 So, having to cut 30lbs is an "excuse"? Interesting...........I thought we were past that mentality when it came to weight cutting. I guess not....... Ok, fine, but at what point do you put some responsibility on Kenny's side for coming in 30 lbs overweight? 3 tbert, PSUMike and stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 403 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 exactly..i was expecting a story about it... it just says he came in heavy. did he not have a scale over the summer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 317 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 I can understand how it happened and I really do feel for him, but it sounds like he got really out of shape in the offseason and couldn't bridge that gap to get back in proper shape. Sounds like it's his fault in the end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 652 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I can understand how it happened and I really do feel for him, but it sounds like he got really out of shape in the offseason and couldn't bridge that gap to get back in proper shape. Sounds like it's his fault in the end.It was his fault, he admits that his heart wasn't into it and he mailed it in. Nice to see him back on the mat. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Edited April 19, 2018 by cjc007 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldcougar 51 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 I was at matside at the Beast of the East maybe a decade ago when Kenny Courts was a 135 lb freshman wrestling for Central Dauphin in the finals. It was early in the first period when Courts seriously hurt his knee. He was in major pain but he continued to wrestle. Then he would have to take a break. Then he would continue again, then have to stop again. Courts ran out of injury time. He had just a couple seconds left. The next break he took would be his last and he would forfeit the finals. With his last possible start on top, Courts somehow stacked his opponent and decked him. It was the bravest performance I've ever seen by a wrestler. Kenny was through for the year. You gotta respect a kid that pulls something like that off. 1 TFBJR reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Didn't Mark Martin go 197 when he could have gone 184? Don't trash the bitching message board fans, trash Tom Ryan. Edited April 20, 2018 by LemonPie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Joe24 90 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 These guys aren't robots. When they show a significant decline, there is usually something pretty signifcant causing it. Here is a little excerpt from http://intermatwrestle.com/articles/20055 Courts returned for his senior season as a favorite to repeat as an All-American. However, it was clear from the start that it was going to be a struggle. "I came in 30 pounds overweight," Courts said. "The whole season was basically a lot of running on the treadmill, a lot of bad matches, and that really killed my love for the sport. I went 0-2 that season at Nationals, after coming into the season ranked fifth. I actually lost my wrestle-off that year to a freshman. After that season, I was over it." Yeah...he came in overweight! He really isn't all that long--not sure of your point. Maybe a little discipline? In regard to his significant decline, what there a relative incline? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe24 90 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 So, having to cut 30lbs is an "excuse"? Interesting...........I thought we were past that mentality when it came to weight cutting. I guess not....... You are a dip****. Kenny was out of shape! His problem--stop the tears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe24 90 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Ok, fine, but at what point do you put some responsibility on Kenny's side for coming in 30 lbs overweight? Dip****...............? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cradle1 239 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 This article is definitely what you would call “spinâ€. Courts wasn’t underachiever all four years and this article is deafly what you would call “spin“. Courts was an underachiever all four years at Ohio State. The fifth place finish was pretty much out of nowhere. Otherwise, I can’t think of a single note worthy performance he had there speaking as a Buckeye fan. I heard from a well-connected Source That his body fat percentage was north of 20% How he has a victim of that I am not sure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cradle1 239 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Before anyone hammers my grammar, I realize now it was atrocious I was doing talk to text LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 471 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Slow day at Intermat? I recall him as often falling apart from lack of conditioning or an inability to hold it together late in his matches. His record grew increasingly worse rather than better. Maybe he can redeem himself in freestyle. Good luck to him. Always nice if someone has a second act. 2016 SR #2 Ohio State #18 184 17 - 12 58.62 % 27.59 % 2015 JR #1 Ohio State #12 184 20 - 11 64.52 % 22.58 % 2014 SO #5 Ohio State #7 184 31 - 9 77.50 % 37.50 % Edited April 20, 2018 by dmm53 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 385 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 I was at matside at the Beast of the East maybe a decade ago when Kenny Courts was a 135 lb freshman wrestling for Central Dauphin in the finals. It was early in the first period when Courts seriously hurt his knee. He was in major pain but he continued to wrestle. Then he would have to take a break. Then he would continue again, then have to stop again. Courts ran out of injury time. He had just a couple seconds left. The next break he took would be his last and he would forfeit the finals. With his last possible start on top, Courts somehow stacked his opponent and decked him. It was the bravest performance I've ever seen by a wrestler. Kenny was through for the year. You gotta respect a kid that pulls something like that off. I was there also. He was world beating until that injury. He gutted it out but he was badly hurt. Glad to see he is back in the mix. Seemed like a nice kid. His father was right there as well. Another big guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 539 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Courts was on the hook from day 1 when it came to his practice room work ethic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie 727 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Dip****...............? Are you talking to me? Might want to read that back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,533 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 You are a dip****. Kenny was out of shape! His problem--stop the tears. Do you realize how weakminded it makes someone look when they resort to name calling and vulgarity? Here is a great saying, "Vulgarity is no substitute for wit!" If he was so out of shape, why did he have to spend all his time throughout the season focusing on a treadmill? Coming in out of shape, should be adjusted within the 1st month, by normal DI practices alone. Wrestling DI is ridiculously hard. Unless you have done it, very few can have a true understanding. Having to fight weight along with everything else is too much for almost anyone. I at least went through it when you could cheat it with extra time allowance. 30 lbs over was way different during my time. Lack of discipline and inability to be successful when cutting weight are not synonymous. Some guys just aren't good at cutting weight. 2 dabondsman and xander reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichB 192 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 Was he not, in his abbreviated HS frosh year, OW both at Top Hat and The Beast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted April 22, 2018 30 pounds is not "overweight" to a wrestler. It is way too fat. You know what the goal is and letting it get so far out of hand is not only stupid, but possibly dangerous. He was that heavy "coming into the season"? Where was his weight management? Off season control? Rulon Gardner stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted April 23, 2018 These guys aren't robots. When they show a significant decline, there is usually something pretty signifcant causing it. Here is a little excerpt from http://intermatwrestle.com/articles/20055 Courts returned for his senior season as a favorite to repeat as an All-American. However, it was clear from the start that it was going to be a struggle. "I came in 30 pounds overweight," Courts said. "The whole season was basically a lot of running on the treadmill, a lot of bad matches, and that really killed my love for the sport. I went 0-2 that season at Nationals, after coming into the season ranked fifth. I actually lost my wrestle-off that year to a freshman. After that season, I was over it." no one cares 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle 179 Report post Posted April 23, 2018 Nothing wrong with a case of HEW. He must have decided there was unfinished business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,533 Report post Posted April 23, 2018 no one cares Thanks. Your insights are always so helpful and genuine. I really wasn't sure until now. Again, thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites