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#21 WillieBoy

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:28 AM

Planning ahead folks will get package deals for travel and lodging in Las Vegas, Nevada. Fans travel and even go to Cleveland so Las Vegas, Nevada should be fine.

 

The right venue with adequate seating and good mat views should be available. Maybe one of the Big Casino's will build a temporary covered stadium for the event?



#22 gimpeltf

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:55 AM

What arenas in LV are big enough? UNLV is at most 18k.

And as to the NCAA prohibition- wasn't it that an NCAA event couldn't be AT a casino. The Convention Center was ok.



#23 steamboat_charlie

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:10 PM

What arenas in LV are big enough? UNLV is at most 18k.

And as to the NCAA prohibition- wasn't it that an NCAA event couldn't be AT a casino. The Convention Center was ok.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.../T-Mobile_Arena



#24 gimpeltf

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:20 PM

 

Same seating as UNLV



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:30 PM

Same seating as UNLV

 

Not sure I follow though... 18k is about the size NCAA's are held at every year.  That's approx. the same size as Quicken Loans, Wells Fargo Arena, Scottrade...



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:31 PM

As a person who has to travel far no matter where National's are held I think Vegas would be a GREAT place to hold the meet. Those saying costs would be too high........... only if you have to stay on the strip....... even then Circus Circus has double queen for about $100.

I payed LOTS more in recent cities. You certainly won't find more entertainment, food, and drink options elsewhere.

 

Edit: AND.........it needs to be out west occasionally.


Edited by AKHUNTER, 14 May 2018 - 12:34 PM.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:38 PM

Well the South Pointe and the Orleans, have held events, and I thought they were very good. So I would love to see the NCAA's come to Vegas.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:40 PM

There are arguments against Vegas, but costs are not one of them. Vegas supports all budgets, in either direction.

The biggest argument against is the Time Zone and what that does to TV scheduling.

Another factor to consider, could be pro/con depending on perspective, is that Weekend is already one of the biggest weekends of the year in Vegas due to it being the first weekend of March madness. Vegas can certainly handle the added visitors, but it would make for a very crowded and busy weekend.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:41 PM

As a person who has to travel far no matter where National's are held I think Vegas would be a GREAT place to hold the meet. Those saying costs would be too high........... only if you have to stay on the strip....... even then Circus Circus has double queen for about $100.

I payed LOTS more in recent cities. You certainly won't find more entertainment, food, and drink options elsewhere.

 

Edit: AND.........it needs to be out west occasionally.

 

Agreed.  I pay more to fly to Iowa, Cleveland, Minnesota than I would Vegas.  Hotels in Vegas are definitely cheaper too. 



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:05 PM

I am a West Coaster who has been to Vegas for more tournaments than I can count.

 

NCAAs in Vegas:  For the love of everything good in this world, NO. 

 

Don't let the historical lore fool you. Vegas is not cheap. Meals are incredibly expensive, or absolutely terrible.  Nightlife is even more expensive.  Sure, you can get some deals on lodging at a place like Circus Circus, but the cab fare to get down to the T Mobile will negate that savings. 

 

Every time we take kids to Vegas tournaments, there is at least one kid who runs out of cash half-way through the trip because his parents would not believe me when I told them how much money they needed. I just had this conversation with a parent last weekend.  The place is designed to suck money out of you, and it is designed very very well.

 

I get the argument that it needs to be on the West Coast every once in a while, but the west coast is a big place. I cannot drive from Oregon to Las Vegas the same way someone can drive from Cleveland to St. Louis.

 

I guess as a novelty location once in a great while it would be ok. 


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#31 gimpeltf

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:07 PM

Not sure I follow though... 18k is about the size NCAA's are held at every year.  That's approx. the same size as Quicken Loans, Wells Fargo Arena, Scottrade...

TMobile is 17.5 for hockey (I used bball first - hockey is better since you can't really use the main floor)

Q = 20

WF= 19.5

 

Scottrade=18.7

 

Those are the hockey figures which are a little higher than NCAA capacity since you have to steal seats for head table



#32 TobusRex

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:21 PM

As a person who has to travel far no matter where National's are held I think Vegas would be a GREAT place to hold the meet. Those saying costs would be too high........... only if you have to stay on the strip....... even then Circus Circus has double queen for about $100.

I payed LOTS more in recent cities. You certainly won't find more entertainment, food, and drink options elsewhere.

 

Edit: AND.........it needs to be out west occasionally.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing NCAAs in Vegas.

 

Regarding CIrcus Circus: I think I'd rather sleep in the street!



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:23 PM

TMobile is 17.5 for hockey (I used bball first - hockey is better since you can't really use the main floor)

Q = 20

WF= 19.5

 

Scottrade=18.7

 

Those are the hockey figures which are a little higher than NCAA capacity since you have to steal seats for head table

 

Is this big enough?  If the Minneapolis event works well in 2020, don't be surprised if all future sites are domed stadiums.

 

Cleveland showed that you don't have to steal so many seats for a head table, by putting it in the end zone.

 

https://en.wikipedia...s_Vegas_Stadium

 

Tenants and events[edit]

The stadium will replace Sam Boyd Stadium and will serve as the home of both the Raiders and the UNLV Rebels football program. In addition, it will host the annual Las Vegas Bowl.[61]

Stadium backers project 20 to 25 additional events per year, with plausible possibilities including the Super Bowl, the Pro Bowl, the NFL Draft, the NCAA Final Four, the USA Sevens rugby tournament, the Monster Jam World Finals, boxing matches, Ultimate Fighting Championship events, the Pac-12 Football Championship Game, neutral-site college football games, international soccer matches, concerts, and corporate shows.[62][63][64]

David Beckham visited Las Vegas in 2016 to advocate for the stadium as a possible home for his Major League Soccer expansion team,[65] although he ultimately announced the launch of the team with a stadium in Miami.[66]

In August 2017, the Raiders, along with the city and the state, submitted a bid to the Canada-Mexico-United States World Cup bid committee to be considered as a site for the 2026 FIFA World Cup. If the three nations are chosen to host the World Cup, the stadium would be in the running to be one of at least 12 venues for the tournament.[67]


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:56 AM

Good article on the topic from a LV perspective:

 

https://www.reviewjo..._eid=5fd7e01e6d


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 04:02 AM

I am a West Coaster who has been to Vegas for more tournaments than I can count.

 

NCAAs in Vegas:  For the love of everything good in this world, NO. 

 

Don't let the historical lore fool you. Vegas is not cheap. Meals are incredibly expensive, or absolutely terrible.  Nightlife is even more expensive.  Sure, you can get some deals on lodging at a place like Circus Circus, but the cab fare to get down to the T Mobile will negate that savings. 

 

Every time we take kids to Vegas tournaments, there is at least one kid who runs out of cash half-way through the trip because his parents would not believe me when I told them how much money they needed. I just had this conversation with a parent last weekend.  The place is designed to suck money out of you, and it is designed very very well.

 

I get the argument that it needs to be on the West Coast every once in a while, but the west coast is a big place. I cannot drive from Oregon to Las Vegas the same way someone can drive from Cleveland to St. Louis.

 

I guess as a novelty location once in a great while it would be ok. 

certainly if you use money poorly Vegas WILL get your dollars........ on ANY wrestling trip I had kids run out of money and had to feed them. You need to be better at taking kids where food is inexpensive and decent.........those places are many.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:36 AM

I'd rather see Phoenix honestly.  


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:50 AM

Good argument for Phoenix.......... I see a need for venues in the southern tier of states. Like warmer weather. MUCH less chance of flight issues.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:38 AM

Las Vegas is warm. Damned hot much of the year. Death Valley is a couple hours drive. Valley of Fire and Red Rocks Park and Mt. Charleston with a ski area close by.

 

A lot of options on every price level for lodging.

 

If they held it in the new Raiders stadium it would be interesting to see. Hot or cold out you will be inside and comfortable. Shuttle buses could run from motels with package deals and help keep cost down.

 

As for driving - a nice cross country trip through the desert is a good time. Open space and clean skies as you cruise mile after mile.

 

But, isn't the real question "will Suriano be happy in Vegas"?


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#39 PAFAN01

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:53 AM

All locations have their pluses and minuses.  I have been to more than 20 NCAA championships and location is never a consideration.  I would like to know or understand how many of the attendees are like me and will go wherever.  I think the number is significant.  Maybe 50%?  By moving the location it gives others the opportunity to attend this great event and then possibly deciding to attend in the future.  Plus we need to get to the younger generation.


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#40 AKHUNTER

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:06 AM

I go regardless of where it is...... not/rarely having it in the west certainly doesn't help the west gain support for wrestling.






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