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#41 bnwtwg

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:57 AM

Too many people would be sad after looking at their statement in April. I love Vegas, I live in an awesome expensive city, and have significantly more disposable income than the average American, and I play with financial data for a living with at least one conference per year in Vegas in addition to personal adventures, and it's still every bit as expensive as when I do NYC or LA and I have to be cautious. Imagine how the average family that is paying for tuition, has family expenses, has to bring 2-4 others along, and has other tuitions coming up must feel. I stand by what I said and will even double down: I am willing to bet my paycheck that if they held the NCAAs in Vegas once, they would never do it again. Lack of fan travel, horrible time of year (costs will be UP not down during March Madness - I know because I go each year with a group of friends), and people can't help but blow money. It's like Disney on steroids.


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#42 bnwtwg

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:02 AM

I just read my post and realized i sound like a jackass. I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging - I meant to come across that I am able to "enjoy Vegas" and it's super expensive, and I couldn't imagine placing the families of 330 people out there. It would be potentially awful financially for many familes.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:03 AM

Too many people would be sad after looking at their statement in April. I love Vegas, I live in an awesome expensive city, and have significantly more disposable income than the average American, and I play with financial data for a living with at least one conference per year in Vegas in addition to personal adventures, and it's still every bit as expensive as when I do NYC or LA and I have to be cautious. Imagine how the average family that is paying for tuition, has family expenses, has to bring 2-4 others along, and has other tuitions coming up must feel. I stand by what I said and will even double down: I am willing to bet my paycheck that if they held the NCAAs in Vegas once, they would never do it again. Lack of fan travel, horrible time of year (costs will be UP not down during March Madness - I know because I go each year with a group of friends), and people can't help but blow money. It's like Disney on steroids.

 

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#44 Greatdane67

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:49 PM

My wife already thinks it is in Vegas every other year. Shhhh...


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:05 PM

How are people saying that Vegas would be too expensive? Is that just assuming you gamble your money away? Hotels and flights are cheaper than pretty much any other city. I stayed in a nice resort there for $40 a night! It's definitely not a family friendly place though.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:01 PM

I just read my post and realized i sound like a jackass. I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging - I meant to come across that I am able to "enjoy Vegas" and it's super expensive, and I couldn't imagine placing the families of 330 people out there. It would be potentially awful financially for many familes.

you absolutely can spend as much money in Vegas as you allow yourself to spend. But inexpensive options are easily had....

Trex......... I didn't say I WOULD stay at Circus I was saying it's pretty cheap..........and on the strip. You would have plenty of company sleeping on the street


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#47 TobusRex

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:06 PM

How are people saying that Vegas would be too expensive? Is that just assuming you gamble your money away? Hotels and flights are cheaper than pretty much any other city. I stayed in a nice resort there for $40 a night! It's definitely not a family friendly place though.

 

I can assure everybody here that flying to Vegas and getting rooms is much cheaper than flying somewhere back east and getting rooms. Vegas is literally built to handle metric **** tons of visitors at a time and has tens of thousands of rooms for rent daily. Regarding the venue: it's not like 25,000 people are going to be filling any auditorium to watch wrestling, at least not in the Western Hemisphere. Any of the 10,000+ seat auditoriums would work fine.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:06 PM

you absolutely can spend as much money in Vegas as you allow yourself to spend. But inexpensive options are easily had....

Trex......... I didn't say I WOULD stay at Circus I was saying it's pretty cheap..........and on the strip. You would have plenty of company sleeping on the street

 

Man, I got some bad Circus CIrcus stories for you. Stayed there twice when I was younger and didn't have much money. Ugh....



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:55 AM

Good argument for Phoenix.......... I see a need for venues in the southern tier of states. Like warmer weather. MUCH less chance of flight issues.

 

You can take your pick of places to hold it in Phoenix. What would be really neat is if it was held at UofP stadium or Chase Field (since baseball won't start until later March), and open the roof to hold the finals at night.  Chase Field would be pretty cool because it is very open so you could put the mats in a lot of places for the preliminary rounds. What I think would be a good idea is if there was a dedicated bleacher section set up at each mat, and then an area for fans who wanted to watch from the other side standing so you could walk around from mat to mat depending on who was up, similar to how golf tournaments are if you follow a certain player or watch a certain player at a certain hole.  Then just gradually contract it as the tournament goes on and have the finals in the best place for the fans.  


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#50 GockeS

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:17 AM

sounds like a pee wee tourney



#51 bnwtwg

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:54 AM

See above where I apologized for coming across as a rude, pompous jerk. I meant to imply, and did a poor job of doing so, that I work daily with personal finance and feel that I have a grasp both from a personal and professional perspective of why, in my opinion, Vegas is a bad idea for many families. Please accept my insincerest internet apology.

 

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#52 lu_alum

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:35 AM

NCAA just paved a way to make it happen...
NCAA to allow championship events in states with sports gambling

https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAxqrQ9


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:16 AM

All locations have their pluses and minuses. I have been to more than 20 NCAA championships and location is never a consideration. I would like to know or understand how many of the attendees are like me and will go wherever. I think the number is significant. Maybe 50%? By moving the location it gives others the opportunity to attend this great event and then possibly deciding to attend in the future. Plus we need to get to the younger generation.


I have been to every NCAA since 2000 and location is NEVER a consideration for my group of 6.

Some sites are better than others, more expensive than others (NYC), but I enjoy every one of them with no regrets.

In the early years, I was happy when St.Louis or KC hosted as travel was simplified for our group. My view on that has changed as I believe it is good for the sport & event to move around to different locations.

Looking forward to Pittsburgh & Minny. Don't feel strongly one way or the other about Vegas but would most certainly be there if they host.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 08:26 AM

Vegas will not be bidding.

I remember seeing something that mentioned there wasn't an interest in bringing the first two rounds of the Men's basketball tournament to Vegas because the city is packed that weekend with college basketball fans that go to the city to bet on all four days of the first two rounds of NCAA basketball games.

That is the same weekend as NCAA wrestling.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:40 AM

I have been to every NCAA since 2000 and location is NEVER a consideration for my group of 6.

Some sites are better than others, more expensive than others (NYC), but I enjoy every one of them with no regrets.

In the early years, I was happy when St.Louis or KC hosted as travel was simplified for our group. My view on that has changed as I believe it is good for the sport & event to move around to different locations.

Looking forward to Pittsburgh & Minny. Don't feel strongly one way or the other about Vegas but would most certainly be there if they host.

 

Ditto with everything you've said (same year in fact, every once since 2000) but with one caveat - don't ever go to Albany again.  #NeverForget

 

Vegas was SO FUN for Worlds, wouldn't mind going back. 


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#56 lu_alum

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 01:17 PM

Vegas will not be bidding.

I remember seeing something that mentioned there wasn't an interest in bringing the first two rounds of the Men's basketball tournament to Vegas because the city is packed that weekend with college basketball fans that go to the city to bet on all four days of the first two rounds of NCAA basketball games.

That is the same weekend as NCAA wrestling.

 

You do realize that Vegas submitted a bid that included wrestling on the last cycle?

https://www.reviewjo...championships/ 

 

"NCAA president Mark Emmert said as much Thursday when he announced that a bid from Las Vegas Events for three championships — men’s basketball, men’s ice hockey and wrestling — would not be considered for the upcoming cycle of awarding sites for championships when the Board of Governors meets April 25."



#57 Pinnum

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 10:22 AM

You do realize that Vegas submitted a bid that included wrestling on the last cycle?
https://www.reviewjo...championships/ 
 
"NCAA president Mark Emmert said as much Thursday when he announced that a bid from Las Vegas Events for three championships — men’s basketball, men’s ice hockey and wrestling — would not be considered for the upcoming cycle of awarding sites for championships when the Board of Governors meets April 25."[/size]


A gateway bid? Wanting a lower profile sport to get a bid to open the way for Regional Finals for basketball to be permitted.

It is always possible I am wrong on the subject since there are a lot of factions and different venues but from what I have heard that weekend isn't one that has an interest in hosting.
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#58 Billyhoyle

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 01:38 PM

NCAAs in Vegas during the first weekend of March Madness would probably be the best NCAAs of all time.  



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Posted 28 May 2018 - 04:50 AM

Does Nevada have a D1 program?

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Posted 28 May 2018 - 04:54 AM

Does Nevada have a D1 program?
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No...but UNLV and Nevada-Reno both have NCWA club programs.

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