CaliWrestler 48 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Franks frustrating looked like he was going to beat the crap out of Chamberlian in 3rd match, think Chamberlian should have been on shot clock? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGranby 175 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 I'll have to watch match 3 again, but If I remember he stayed in the center and wrestled out every position for the most part. I dont think I wouldve been particularly upset if he went on the clock, but Im also not sure it was warranted. Not sure how many times Frank got close to scoring, I know the one time it was when Jason got the pushout. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 560 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Franks frustrating looked like he was going to beat the crap out of Chamberlian in 3rd match, think Chamberlian should have been on shot clock?In all the matches I watched, I was correct only about 20% on predicting negative wrestling. Holding center apparently has little emphasis here as it does internationally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SikeD 14 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Well, he definitely won the headbutt war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,675 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Screaming multiple times at the top of his lungs after the match was over was a very bad look. I get frustration and giving a shove or a quick complaint, but that was just plain over the top... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliWrestler 48 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Screaming multiple times at the top of his lungs after the match was over was a very bad look. I get frustration and giving a shove or a quick complaint, but that was just plain over the top... I didn't catch what he was saying? Did you guys.. Damm he was pissed. Frank looks like he has too much testosterone 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,675 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Screaming VERY loudly that he was passive and not doing anything. Even when Chamberlain's hand was being raised IIRC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 I didn't catch what he was saying? Did you guys.. Damm he was pissed. Frank looks like he has too much testosterone He screamed "How about a little passivity?!" After continuously attacking and being blocked off in the final 30-40 seconds or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Is he too small for the weight? It's too bad he can't make 65. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,593 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 I don’t think he’s our best chance for a medal at any weight. I’ll take Stieber or JO, maybe Zain, and soon Yianni at 65, and the very proven Green at 70 any day over the Tank. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle26 437 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 I don’t think he’s our best chance for a medal at any weight. I’ll take Stieber or JO, maybe Zain, and soon Yianni at 65, and the very proven Green at 70 any day over the Tank. Only one of those guys you listed at 65 is actually wrestling (stieber). Frank had a much better chance at beating Steiber than Green, and with how close he was to a medal at the olympics, there's no reason to think he couldn't have gotten one this year there. I wish he would've stayed at 65! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 710 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Frank had his window, and he made a nice run up to and in Rio. Needs to realize that time has passed him by and his window is now closed. 4 silver, iGranby, Greatdane67 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,593 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Only one of those guys you listed at 65 is actually wrestling (stieber). Frank had a much better chance at beating Steiber than Green, and with how close he was to a medal at the olympics, there's no reason to think he couldn't have gotten one this year there. I wish he would've stayed at 65! Since the post I was responding to rued his inability to make 65 kg in the future (obviously, he went 70 this year...), my comment stands. You may disagree, but I think he's the type of guy who can get close but not medal. Insanely strong, well-conditioned, and tough, but not enough offense to win a medal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,133 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Frank had his window, and he made a nice run up to and in Rio. Needs to realize that time has passed him by and his window is now closed.How many high level athletes actually do this? To Frank’s credit, nobody gave him a shot to make the team. Then nobody gave him a shot to qualify the weight (he almost didn’t). Then he was viewed as our weakest link on the team even though he beat a stellar field to make the team and then he came very close to beating a world champion to medal. Frank doesn’t care what you think. He could absolutely medal, but we happen to have a top 3 guy in the world manning 70kg. 1 Ogalthorpe Haywood reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cangemi 221 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Props for Chamberlin too ,stuck with it improving a bunch. 2 Housebuye and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Frank had his window, and he made a nice run up to and in Rio. Needs to realize that time has passed him by and his window is now closed. There were some who believed this regarding Jordan Burroughs after this flop at the 2016 Olympics... Man I hope you never coach anyone else ever. What an inspiring perspective you have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,593 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Did you just compare the Tank to JB?? In wrestling?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 He got screwed in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maolsen 94 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Did you just compare the Tank to JB?? In wrestling?? See the NJ state finals. The tank > Burroughs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 455 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Not sure if his window's closed; but with these performances, I question whether it was ever open at 70. However, I don't see how we could say Stieber or Zain or JO would be better options at 65 if Frank could make 65. His run of results at 65 was very, very strong. It wasn't limited to the near-medal at the Olympics. I questioned his offense too until early 2016 when he finally broke through. At 65, his lack of length isn't a hindrance like it is at 70. He is guaranteed to get in on his high crotch at least 3 times against anyone in the world in a given match. It's not always a guarantee he scores, but he gets 2's and 4's constantly even against world top 10 guys at 65. 1 Eagle26 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gutfirst 219 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 i don't remember seeing jordan burroughs, buvaisar saitiev, alexander keraline, mijian lopez or john smith complaining that the other guy was passive. i do, however, remember several of their opponents doing everything possible to be passive and stop them from scoring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steen-hooph 60 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 If Frank is in for the long haul, he will be back at 65 in 2020. I'm guessing he will start prepping with a new diet and less lifting as 2020 approaches. Like a lot of wrestlers, Frank may not be interested in shrinking his body for two years and has decided to go 70 for a while. Don't know Frank, but since he is an Olympian, he probably does not share the opinion of some posters that he had no chance of making the team at 70. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 430 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Frank had his window, and he made a nice run up to and in Rio. Needs to realize that time has passed him by and his window is now closed. Didn't he just get 3rd at Yarigin? Also, he scored more offensive points in the match that he won than Chambo scored in the entire 3 match series (Chambo scored 1 stepout off a single). I'm not a Molinaro fan, but I don't understand the hate he's getting right now. 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 651 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 Didn't he just get 3rd at Yarigin? Also, he scored more offensive points in the match that he won than Chambo scored in the entire 3 match series (Chambo scored 1 stepout off a single). I'm not a Molinaro fan, but I don't understand the hate he's getting right now.Stating the obvious facts isn't hatred, it's reality. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 403 Report post Posted May 22, 2018 i loved the era that scoring points was bad... and if you give up points you have no defense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
