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[GuillermoBilletas]

top club in the nation

 

3x National Champs

 

Change my mind

[superbowlhomeboy]

Best club in the Nation! Coaches are doing a great job developing those kids!

[cbg]

Best club in the Nation! Coaches are doing a great job developing those kids!

 

Doing a great job developing or doing a great job recruiting!  

[BobDole]

What's the point of bringing in kids from 10 states to compete in this event?

[gimpeltf]

To win?

[BobDole]

To win?

What do you get out of winning the event by doing that? 

[gimpeltf]

Obviously a sense of winning!

[BobDole]

Obviously a sense of winning!

Sounds fun to see who can put together the best team with kids from all over the country. 

[MadMardigain]

Tons of teams in for this event but agree it’s pretty lobsided when a few teams are calling in multiple state title hired guns from all sides do the country to ensure a deep run and other teams are lucky enough to get state qualifiers from their local area. With that many teams competing they could easily do something similar to Disney Duals. Have a all-star division where you have kids from multiple states and the teams that want to recruit nationwide talent can battle it out. And then a state division (yeah I know DD is school district) where at least everyone has to come from the same state. Sure some teams will still be packed with home state talent but most wont be near to the degree of these all-state teams. Plus, if you feel your state teams up for the challenge they could enter the all-star division.

[BobDole]

Tons of teams in for this event but agree it’s pretty lobsided when a few teams are calling in multiple state title hired guns from all sides do the country to ensure a deep run and other teams are lucky enough to get state qualifiers from their local area. With that many teams competing they could easily do something similar to Disney Duals. Have a all-star division where you have kids from multiple states and the teams that want to recruit nationwide talent can battle it out. And then a state division (yeah I know DD is school district) where at least everyone has to come from the same state. Sure some teams will still be packed with home state talent but most wont be near to the degree of these all-state teams. Plus, if you feel your state teams up for the challenge they could enter the all-star division.

The All-Star division at the Disney Duals has a restriction of three wrestlers from an adjoining district(mostly a state) on each All-Star team. So thus the type of all star teams at NHSCA's cannot be put together at Disney.

[Konquest]

Any national dual meet tournament that isn't handily won by a club or team from Pennsylvania or Illinois should be immediate cause for skepticism.  The only people who should get any pride out of "Team Kong" winning its 3x "national championship" are the ones who organize the team.  It's just some good matches for top level kids...no team pride or state bragging rights in an event like this.

[george]

Team Gladiator Sword finished 7/8.  It's a club west of Pittsburgh.

Looking at the roster, They all go to local nearby high schools.

I'm pretty sure all of them train there.

[Konquest]

Team Gladiator Sword finished 7/8.  It's a club west of Pittsburgh.

Looking at the roster, They all go to local nearby high schools.

I'm pretty sure all of them train there.

 

That's what I'm talking about.  More impressive to me than "Team Kong".

[Hofman19]

As someone who is from Long Island and knows the organizers, I just want to come to their defense a little bit.

While no one is using this as a sign of bragging rights or NY superiority, I want to dispel any belief that these are just 14 kids who are working independent of each other.

 

They may come from different states, but by the end of the weekend, they are very much a "team" in terms of support for one another and lasting relationships.

 

I was just on the Kong facebook page and saw that Kanen Storr had taken the time to congratulate this year's team.   Last weekend, Gannon Gremmel was wishing the boys the best of luck.   Sammy Evans is also a frequent contributor to the page.  

So, I do concur that the title itself is not as special as when you do it with a hometown group of student-athletes.  But the experience of being a team is very much alive within the Kong system.  

Hope that makes some sense and does not sound too sappy.

Edited by Hofman19, 01 June 2018 - 02:16 PM.

[hammerlockthree]

the people who organize these super teams are pathetic.

[NJWC]

As someone who is from Long Island and knows the organizers, I just want to come to their defense a little bit.

While no one is using this as a sign of bragging rights or NY superiority, I want to dispel any belief that these are just 14 kids who are working independent of each other.

They may come from different states, but by the end of the weekend, they are very much a "team" in terms of support for one another and lasting relationships.

I was just on the Kong facebook page and saw that Kanen Storr had taken the time to congratulate this year's team. Last weekend, Gannon Gremmel was wishing the boys the best of luck. Sammy Evans is also a frequent contributor to the page.

So, I do concur that the title itself is not as special as when you do it with a hometown group of student-athletes. But the experience of being a team is very much alive within the Kong system.

Hope that makes some sense and does not sound too sappy.

You sound ridiculous. “By the end of the weekend, these kids are a team.”.
No they aren’t. They’re acquaintances who loaded a team and wion an event.
A team trains and competes together over significant periods of time.

[BigTenFanboy]

You sound ridiculous. “By the end of the weekend, these kids are a team.”.
No they aren’t. They’re acquaintances who loaded a team and wion an event.
A team trains and competes together over significant periods of time.

 

Kinda like Team USA!

[HokieHWT]

As someone who is from Long Island and knows the organizers, I just want to come to their defense a little bit.

While no one is using this as a sign of bragging rights or NY superiority, I want to dispel any belief that these are just 14 kids who are working independent of each other.

 

They may come from different states, but by the end of the weekend, they are very much a "team" in terms of support for one another and lasting relationships.

 

I was just on the Kong facebook page and saw that Kanen Storr had taken the time to congratulate this year's team.   Last weekend, Gannon Gremmel was wishing the boys the best of luck.   Sammy Evans is also a frequent contributor to the page.  

So, I do concur that the title itself is not as special as when you do it with a hometown group of student-athletes.  But the experience of being a team is very much alive within the Kong system.  

Hope that makes some sense and does not sound too sappy.

GTFOH

[Hofman19]

I am not sure what the hell you guys are looking for. 

 

I acknowledged that the win was not the same as when you do it with local kids and that no one should be taking credit for it.

 

Instead of being assholes with keyboard, why don't you ask one of the kids themselves if they felt like hired help, or if the organizers promoted a team environment?

My comment was not even about wins or losses; it was about attitude and the level of support they gave to each other.  And how it appears that a lot of the guys who come from other states seem to enjoy the experience and stay in contact with each other after the fact.   

Edited by Hofman19, 02 June 2018 - 04:45 AM.

[HokieHWT]

Coming to their defense at all is making you look like an ass.

 

Can't  coach? Bring in athletes who have  been coached already.