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So I guess my question would be then where did BTFB get his information that numbers decreased.

During this past season, I read a few articles with high school coaches discussing low numbers in their programs which traditionally would fill out decent numbers. One coach was quoted in saying in the past kids told him they would wrestle if not for the singlet. Where are those kids now?

 

I will see if I can still find it.

But no I don't have direct numbers on this past years decline or increase, however it's been pretty well known numbers have been declining for years. Otherwise, why would there be talks of decreasing the number of high school weights?

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Bottom line is, the two piece at the grass roots level can only help, it cannot hurt. Not denying that there are those that say “if not for the singlet” as an easy out but that’s not the real reason. No doubt that is the case for some kids. What I am saying is that there are also some kids for which that is truly a huge deterrent. And now that there’s options, can only help and not hurt. I personally, not from an article but directly, have seen kids who did decide to give it a try once they learned that is the new uniform. Obviously that’s not the case in every single program across the country. But let’s say for arguments sake, one freshman kid in each state changed their mind each year, that’s 50 new kids (not a stretch of the imagination). How can anyone possibly say that’s not a positive. So my point is, to downplay it as no effect, just because it doesn’t effect EVERYONE who ever used that excuse, is ignoring those we can get for the sake of those who we won’t anyway.

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Do you folks really believe there’s going to be an instant jump in participation numbers? Most kids who didn’t wrestle just had the opportunity to see and realize that the uniform had changed. It’s going to take a bit of time to have an impact.

 

I just can’t understand why anyone would not want to give something new a try. I’m around middle school and high school kids all the time, trust me the singlets are a barrier and a laughing stock. It’s not just potential wrestlers using it as an excuse, it’s girls, parents and the vast majority of non wrestlers.

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I think it is a matter of functionality.  Yes, we practice in shorts and t-shirts, but those are easy to come by.  Singlets back in my day were not easy to come by and expensive.   But back to functionality, I think shorts, t-shirts and sweats all pose a risk of catching a thumb or finger.  Shooting in on a single and your thumb catches loose clothing is not a good thing.  Singlets take a major injury element out of the sport. 

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Hey I'm all for the 2 piece uniform. I personally don't like the fight shorts but that's a personal opinion. I don't think it's going to have the effects that some are making it out to have but to each his own. I just like the 2 piece uniform because I always thought they looked cool.

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I think it is a matter of functionality. Yes, we practice in shorts and t-shirts, but those are easy to come by. Singlets back in my day were not easy to come by and expensive. But back to functionality, I think shorts, t-shirts and sweats all pose a risk of catching a thumb or finger. Shooting in on a single and your thumb catches loose clothing is not a good thing. Singlets take a major injury element out of the sport.

My high school team wrestled in the newly approved two piece uniforms and we didn’t have one issue/injury with fingers getting caught. We also wrestled a bunch of teams who also wore a two piece and same thing, no issues with fingers getting caught.

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I believe both of these things to be true for the younger ages:

 

1. The shirt/shorts combo could increase participation among those who are weighing participation and have some discomfort with wearing a singlet.

2. There are zero people who would love to wrestle and the only thing stopping them is the singlet. Anyone who has said otherwise in the past will come up with new excuses when presented with an alternative.

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I think it's an easy excuse for kids that don't want to wrestle. It's tough for kids to admit that wrestling is darn difficult, so saying it's the singlet is an easy out for them. Now that the singlet is no longer an issue we should have seen huge turn out this past year if these kids actually told the turth. Instead we see even more decline in particpation.

they weren't.

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I believe both of these things to be true for the younger ages:

 

1. The shirt/shorts combo could increase participation among those who are weighing participation and have some discomfort with wearing a singlet.

2. There are zero people who would love to wrestle and the only thing stopping them is the singlet. Anyone who has said otherwise in the past will come up with new excuses when presented with an alternative.

#2. Is not true... I have seen a kid that would've loved to wrestle but his parent would not allow him to solely because of the singlet. Crazy but true. There has to be other similar situations. What about the heavy set jr. High kid that would wrestle if he didn't have to wear a singlet in front of everyone?

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#2. Is not true... I have seen a kid that would've loved to wrestle but his parent would not allow him to solely because of the singlet. Crazy but true. There has to be other similar situations. What about the heavy set jr. High kid that would wrestle if he didn't have to wear a singlet in front of everyone?

 

If it makes you feel any better that kid who wanted to wrestle but the singlet kept him out....that kid probably would've washed out anyway or been a career benchwarmer.

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If it makes you feel any better that kid who wanted to wrestle but the singlet kept him out....that kid probably would've washed out anyway or been a career benchwarmer.

It would be worth it if those kids became lifetime fans and supporters of wrestling after giving it a try, though. Sports is full of ppl who suck at playing but are die-hard fans. Look at soccer... or football.

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2. There are zero people who would love to wrestle and the only thing stopping them is the singlet. Anyone who has said otherwise in the past will come up with new excuses when presented with an alternative.

 

I know I've explained my own self-conscious issues being an overweight kid interested in wrestling in numerous other posts. These people do indeed exists - I was one of them. Took a while to get over that issue. I still never felt comfortable wearing a singlet. 

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Honest question, how much better is a spandex top and compression shorts at hiding a physique that a kid is embarrassed to show???????

a tshirt won't hide your physique in a pool either but thats a popular move for larger kids. 

 

the shorts and shirt combo is about multiple things. 1) is that no one will ever buy or wear a singlet for anything other than wrestling competitions because it is a ridiculous spandex unitard. 2) is that kids would be less hesitant to try a sport if the only outfit you could compete in wasn't a ridiculous spandex unitard. 

 

i think the obvious move is to have options. kids that like spandex unitards can wear them. kids that like fight shorts and compression tops can wear them. kids that prefer regular gym shorts and tshirt can wear that. 

Edited by Jaroslav Hasek

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Over the years, legends like Gable, Sanderson, Snyder, and Slater have built the singlet into one of the most recognizable brands in combat sports. Fight shorts are associated with criminals like Jon Jones and Conor Mcgregor. I don't know about the rest of you, but I think the branding for the singlet is way better than the fight shorts or "rash guard."

There are plenty of upstanding mma fighters too. Stop trying to twist the narrative

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Honest question, how much better is a spandex top and compression shorts at hiding a physique that a kid is embarrassed to show???????

A fair amount better. If I was overweight, I would be so embarrassed about my nipples popping out.

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