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#81 LJB

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 03:27 AM

I never said there wasn’t a weight diffenrece. I never said it couldn’t have had an impact.
I also doubt they wrestled at Snyder’s walking around weight (why mention that you idiot, Snyder had to weigh in at the same class as Sad).
I said Sad chose to go there, months in advance.
He lost, despite the gift TD at the start of the match.

you are correct, THEY did not wrestle at snyder's walk around... only snyder did...

 

dummy 



#82 NJWC

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 03:44 AM

you are correct, THEY did not wrestle at snyder's walk around... only snyder did...

 

dummy 

So now 97KGs is no longer 213lbs, but rather 223lbs?  Which is what you just said Snyder walks around at?  But I'M the dummy?

 

Lol, read your contributions to the Final X thread, and tell me who the dummy is you psycho.



#83 LJB

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:07 AM

well, yes... you are a dummy... you prove that with most of your posts...

 

you do not think snyder puts any weight back on after weigh ins?

really?



#84 BigTenFanboy

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:36 AM

well, yes... you are a dummy... you prove that with most of your posts...

 

you do not think snyder puts any weight back on after weigh ins?

really?

 

When the side you root for has a disadvantage its "unfair"

When the side you root for has an advantage its "perfectly fair"



#85 NJWC

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:39 AM

well, yes... you are a dummy... you prove that with most of your posts...

you do not think snyder puts any weight back on after weigh ins?
really?


A guy who states his 8 year old som’s options are either a world team, or falling back on a D1 rise, calling someone else dummy is quite ironic.
Let me ask you, you’re he dad who gets his five year old a Mohawk and fake tattoo, aren’t you?
Be honest, you’re that guy, amiriite?

Lol

#86 LJB

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:43 AM

A guy who states his 8 year old som’s options are either a world team, or falling back on a D1 rise, calling someone else dummy is quite ironic.
Let me ask you, you’re he dad who gets his five year old a Mohawk and fake tattoo, aren’t you?
Be honest, you’re that guy, amiriite?

Lol

you are not good at this... you should stop



#87 AHamilton

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:43 AM

You mean there is a bias among an author. Shocker. I have a bias against pious Republican JEEZUS types like you (read the Bible; savage AF). I think you are a hypocrite at best, and your morals are from a book that describes dead babies and bestiality porn. I will pass on such morals. Yet I give Snyder a pass because he is my favorite active wrestler and I don't care about his faith. So give your support of a Republican Jesus version of religion and persecution complex a rest. Well unless you want to defend your political oriented savage faith to me. I am game, most take a pass.

Yeah... I'm not sure what you are talking about with me...

 

My point is that the American's Christianity was a focal point of the author's, but not Saduleev's religion, which although alluded to was never discussed... and he is apparently extremely devout (which is fine by me). 

 

I think you have me mistaken with someone else, I am not someone I would consider overly pious and I have no problem with anyone else's faith or lack thereof.  In fact, I am a teacher of world religions. 

 

I just think the article was unbalanced.

 

The only "savage AF" thing I have read lately was your post, attacking me, unprovoked...

 

(And here I was a fan of your posts, despite the repeated misanthropy and repeated "savage AF" references)



#88 spladle

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:16 AM

I find myself wanting to root against Snyder after reading the article.

#89 sgallan

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:56 AM

Yeah... I'm not sure what you are talking about with me...

My point is that the American's Christianity was a focal point of the author's, but not Saduleev's religion, which although alluded to was never discussed... and he is apparently extremely devout (which is fine by me).

I think you have me mistaken with someone else, I am not someone I would consider overly pious and I have no problem with anyone else's faith or lack thereof. In fact, I am a teacher of world religions.

I just think the article was unbalanced.

The only "savage AF" thing I have read lately was your post, attacking me, unprovoked...

(And here I was a fan of your posts, despite the repeated misanthropy and repeated "savage AF" references)

Meh, I am not looking for fans. I have a cool dog and some cats..... not a fan of humans. And as far as religion I have actually read the Bible more than once, all the Mormon stuff, some of the Koran, a bunch of bahai stuff, Buddhist stuff. Not a lot of the India religions. I am pretty well versed in Wiccan and some other occult stuff. Eastern religions are generally less brutal. Christians in the US, well at least the noisy ones, are a combination of Republican Jesus types mixed in with Talibangelicals. They are a political version of the religion where the dividing line between faith and politics scews to politics or worse. Otherwise all beliefs in the super natural are mostly equally absurd to me. I view Wiccan, the magical power of crystals, and the Christian god as all equal in the absurdities.
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#90 sgallan

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:04 AM

I find myself wanting to root against Snyder after reading the article.

I just like his wrestling and wrestling attitude. For him wrestling isn't the grind, the constant never ending rite of passage common with American wrestling, but something he just loves. I am also a huge fan of Sudalaev and he is a pretty strident Muslim. It is like I am not a fan of Eastwoods politics but I really like his professional work.

#91 BigTenFanboy

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:10 AM

I just like his wrestling and wrestling attitude. For him wrestling isn't the grind, the constant never ending rite of passage common with American wrestling, but something he just loves. I am also a huge fan of Sudalaev and he is a pretty strident Muslim. It is like I am not a fan of Eastwoods politics but I really like his professional work.


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#92 sgallan

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:15 AM

sgallon, i've seen some good posts from you before, and continue to respect you for that. i'll not engage you on the topic you seem frothing to debate. i do hope today is a better day for you, friend. and please don't give in to the temptation to read that with a note of condescension of disrespect; i mean it from a place of kindness and respect.

hope to see you around sometime.

Thanks. You know when you have LGBT family, and have for decades, going back when the hate was a part of a lot of religious identity, up to physical confrontations (in one once with gay family, I had the wrestler thing so able to help but still not fun) you tend to view an awful lot of this countries primary religion a little different. Not looking for a debate, just letting you know the background.

#93 sgallan

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:20 AM

https://www.ncronlin...h-help-him-cope

Meh, I see that stuff on my various feeds I just delete it. I am interested in his wrestling. I could otherwise care less if he believes in pink unicorns who blow rainbow farts. That and other than the obligatory 'grace of god' reference he actually talks about wrestling a lot.

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#94 AHamilton

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:31 AM

Meh, I am not looking for fans. I have a cool dog and some cats..... not a fan of humans. And as far as religion I have actually read the Bible more than once, all the Mormon stuff, some of the Koran, a bunch of bahai stuff, Buddhist stuff. Not a lot of the India religions. I am pretty well versed in Wiccan and some other occult stuff. Eastern religions are generally less brutal. Christians in the US, well at least the noisy ones, are a combination of Republican Jesus types mixed in with Talibangelicals. They are a political version of the religion where the dividing line between faith and politics scews to politics or worse. Otherwise all beliefs in the super natural are mostly equally absurd to me. I view Wiccan, the magical power of crystals, and the Christian god as all equal in the absurdities.

 

And I wasn't trying to be a fanboy.  I was just saying that I have enjoyed some of your breakdowns of wrestlers techniques, matches etc.

 

I made the statement that it was an unbalanced article, almost trying to paint Snyder as the bad guy.  



#95 sgallan

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:48 AM

And I wasn't trying to be a fanboy. I was just saying that I have enjoyed some of your breakdowns of wrestlers techniques, matches etc.

I made the statement that it was an unbalanced article, almost trying to paint Snyder as the bad guy.

Well we, and that means me as well, do tend to see things that from our world view, beliefs, and experiences.
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#96 AHamilton

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:45 PM

Well we, and that means me as well, do tend to see things that from our world view, beliefs, and experiences.

 

You could also count the references, and the tone of the references,  to particular belief systems.

 

I mean, the author didn't even reference that Saduleev went straight to his Hajj from Worlds!

 

I'm pretty sure the article was designed to make Snyder the villain.



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:23 PM

So now 97KGs is no longer 213lbs, but rather 223lbs?  Which is what you just said Snyder walks around at?  But I'M the dummy?

 

Lol, read your contributions to the Final X thread, and tell me who the dummy is you psycho.

I was waiting that one of you answers, but I want to answer this question. OF COURSE if the weigh in done day before the wrestler will quickly put back all his weight and even more. Rehydrate himself, get plenty of food. He has more than 12 hrs to recuperate. I like that they returned every day weigh ins( like old days). It will not probably stop wrestlers from cutting weight, but they will not have enough time to gain 20 lbs. And the size difference will not be significant. It will be more fair. And we hopefully see fair match between Snyder and Sadullaev. 



#98 AHamilton

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:33 PM

I was waiting that one of you answers, but I want to answer this question. OF COURSE if the weigh in done day before the wrestler will quickly put back all his weight and even more. Rehydrate himself, get plenty of food. He has more than 12 hrs to recuperate. I like that they returned every day weigh ins( like old days). It will not probably stop wrestlers from cutting weight, but they will not have enough time to gain 20 lbs. And the size difference will not be significant. It will be more fair. And we hopefully see fair match between Snyder and Sadullaev. 

 

The last one was fair.


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#99 NJWC

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:51 PM

Thanks. You know when you have LGBT family, and have for decades, going back when the hate was a part of a lot of religious identity, up to physical confrontations (in one once with gay family, I had the wrestler thing so able to help but still not fun) you tend to view an awful lot of this countries primary religion a little different. Not looking for a debate, just letting you know the background.


I’m far from a bible beater, close to atheist actually, but the moral equivalency that idiots try to pawn off between Christianity and Islam is ignorant at best, moronic at worst.
List the thousands killed in the name of Christianity over the last 25-50 years. What’s that? They don’t exist?
Now compare to the hundreds of thousands killed in the.name of Islam.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:53 PM

I was waiting that one of you answers, but I want to answer this question. OF COURSE if the weigh in done day before the wrestler will quickly put back all his weight and even more. Rehydrate himself, get plenty of food. He has more than 12 hrs to recuperate. I like that they returned every day weigh ins( like old days). It will not probably stop wrestlers from cutting weight, but they will not have enough time to gain 20 lbs. And the size difference will not be significant. It will be more fair. And we hopefully see fair match between Snyder and Sadullaev.


First match was unfair? Sadulaev eas forced to bump up?
Snyder was given points as a head start? Red was biased?
What was unfair, in the finals of the world championship, about the match?




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