Article about Snyder-Sadulaev match

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"Heady whiff of groin reek"

 

Sounds like this writer spends to much time with his head in the laundry basket.

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Great article on the whole.

 

He is obviously wordy and that is your thing or it isn't and it's simply the personal preference of the reader. I love long hand journalism and I don't mind the language. I thought my wife might enjoy it as a lukewarm 'fan' who knows a tiny bit of wrestling. She read a few hundred words and said "why don't you just tell me who wins the match, that's interesting but the writing isn't."

 

His desire to create opposites out of Snyder and Sadulaev in the end falls flat. I'm fine with pointing out the healthy (at least) ego of Snyder. Every competitive guy has a healthy ego or more. But to paint Sadulaev as the opposite and to pretend that Snyder's arrogance led to the fans being in Sad's corner is dumb. Burroughs has far more ego than Snyder and is beloved by fans worldwide. Sad is loved because he's more exciting and has blitzed the world before that tournament. Both guys have egos and neither fits the underdog narrative he was trying to drum up. Snyder may be Icarus who hasn't crashed to Earth yet, but Sadulaev is simply Icarus who has. They aren't opposites no matter how much more complete the narrative is if you make them.

 

Also the rural quality of wrestling is very interesting. In Texas wrestling is almost exclusively a sport of the wealthy suburbs. It's a new sport in Texas and the small towns have never had teams. Only the wealthy suburbs of the big cities do. It's very strange compared to where wrestling flourishes around the country. It's almost like the Lacrosse of the South down here. The Amarillo area has a long history of wrestling and fits the demo you find elsewhere, but the rest of the wrestling in the state sure doesn't.

Just read the article, I liked it although yes the author was a bit wordy.

 

But back on this “rural” topic, was he trying to compare the rural-ness of where Snyder grew up to Sadulaev? That seems like a bit of a stretch. Sure Woodbine is a little hickish, but it’s still just 30 miles from Baltimore and 35 miles to DC, and where Snyder went to high school was less than 20 miles to DC. Probably a pretty big difference to where Sadulaev grew up.

[NJWC 305]

LOL, I will add "whack job" to my list of why humans hate other humans.

I don’t hate you, or anyone else for that matter. I pity you, your hatefulness, and your mental instability.

[NJWC 305]

again,

he stepped on the mat... he lost... is what is...

 

but only a truly ignorant fan boi would not recognize the reality of the situation...

I never said there wasn’t a weight diffenrece. I never said it couldn’t have had an impact.

I also doubt they wrestled at Snyder’s walking around weight (why mention that you idiot, Snyder had to weigh in at the same class as Sad).

I said Sad chose to go there, months in advance.

He lost, despite the gift TD at the start of the match.

[John Coctostan 48]

sgallon, i've seen some good posts from you before, and continue to respect you for that.  i'll not engage you on the topic you seem frothing to debate.  i do hope today is a better day for you, friend.  and please don't give in to the temptation to read that with a note of condescension of disrespect;  i mean it from a place of kindness and respect.  

hope to see you around sometime.

[LJB 1,464]

I never said there wasn’t a weight diffenrece. I never said it couldn’t have had an impact.

I also doubt they wrestled at Snyder’s walking around weight (why mention that you idiot, Snyder had to weigh in at the same class as Sad).

I said Sad chose to go there, months in advance.

He lost, despite the gift TD at the start of the match.

you are correct, THEY did not wrestle at snyder's walk around... only snyder did...

 

dummy 

[NJWC 305]

you are correct, THEY did not wrestle at snyder's walk around... only snyder did...

 

dummy 

So now 97KGs is no longer 213lbs, but rather 223lbs?  Which is what you just said Snyder walks around at?  But I'M the dummy?

 

Lol, read your contributions to the Final X thread, and tell me who the dummy is you psycho.

[LJB 1,464]

well, yes... you are a dummy... you prove that with most of your posts...

 

you do not think snyder puts any weight back on after weigh ins?

really?

[BigTenFanboy 1,710]

well, yes... you are a dummy... you prove that with most of your posts...

 

you do not think snyder puts any weight back on after weigh ins?

really?

 

When the side you root for has a disadvantage its "unfair"

When the side you root for has an advantage its "perfectly fair"

[NJWC 305]

well, yes... you are a dummy... you prove that with most of your posts...

 

you do not think snyder puts any weight back on after weigh ins?

really?

A guy who states his 8 year old som’s options are either a world team, or falling back on a D1 rise, calling someone else dummy is quite ironic.

Let me ask you, you’re he dad who gets his five year old a Mohawk and fake tattoo, aren’t you?

Be honest, you’re that guy, amiriite?

 

Lol

[LJB 1,464]

A guy who states his 8 year old som’s options are either a world team, or falling back on a D1 rise, calling someone else dummy is quite ironic.

Let me ask you, you’re he dad who gets his five year old a Mohawk and fake tattoo, aren’t you?

Be honest, you’re that guy, amiriite?

 

Lol

you are not good at this... you should stop

[AHamilton 527]

You mean there is a bias among an author. Shocker. I have a bias against pious Republican JEEZUS types like you (read the Bible; savage AF). I think you are a hypocrite at best, and your morals are from a book that describes dead babies and bestiality porn. I will pass on such morals. Yet I give Snyder a pass because he is my favorite active wrestler and I don't care about his faith. So give your support of a Republican Jesus version of religion and persecution complex a rest. Well unless you want to defend your political oriented savage faith to me. I am game, most take a pass.

Yeah... I'm not sure what you are talking about with me...

 

My point is that the American's Christianity was a focal point of the author's, but not Saduleev's religion, which although alluded to was never discussed... and he is apparently extremely devout (which is fine by me). 

 

I think you have me mistaken with someone else, I am not someone I would consider overly pious and I have no problem with anyone else's faith or lack thereof.  In fact, I am a teacher of world religions. 

 

I just think the article was unbalanced.

 

The only "savage AF" thing I have read lately was your post, attacking me, unprovoked...

 

(And here I was a fan of your posts, despite the repeated misanthropy and repeated "savage AF" references)

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I find myself wanting to root against Snyder after reading the article.

[sgallan 592]

Yeah... I'm not sure what you are talking about with me...

 

My point is that the American's Christianity was a focal point of the author's, but not Saduleev's religion, which although alluded to was never discussed... and he is apparently extremely devout (which is fine by me).

 

I think you have me mistaken with someone else, I am not someone I would consider overly pious and I have no problem with anyone else's faith or lack thereof. In fact, I am a teacher of world religions.

 

I just think the article was unbalanced.

 

The only "savage AF" thing I have read lately was your post, attacking me, unprovoked...

 

(And here I was a fan of your posts, despite the repeated misanthropy and repeated "savage AF" references)

Meh, I am not looking for fans. I have a cool dog and some cats..... not a fan of humans. And as far as religion I have actually read the Bible more than once, all the Mormon stuff, some of the Koran, a bunch of bahai stuff, Buddhist stuff. Not a lot of the India religions. I am pretty well versed in Wiccan and some other occult stuff. Eastern religions are generally less brutal. Christians in the US, well at least the noisy ones, are a combination of Republican Jesus types mixed in with Talibangelicals. They are a political version of the religion where the dividing line between faith and politics scews to politics or worse. Otherwise all beliefs in the super natural are mostly equally absurd to me. I view Wiccan, the magical power of crystals, and the Christian god as all equal in the absurdities.

[sgallan 592]

I find myself wanting to root against Snyder after reading the article.

I just like his wrestling and wrestling attitude. For him wrestling isn't the grind, the constant never ending rite of passage common with American wrestling, but something he just loves. I am also a huge fan of Sudalaev and he is a pretty strident Muslim. It is like I am not a fan of Eastwoods politics but I really like his professional work.

[BigTenFanboy 1,710]

I just like his wrestling and wrestling attitude. For him wrestling isn't the grind, the constant never ending rite of passage common with American wrestling, but something he just loves. I am also a huge fan of Sudalaev and he is a pretty strident Muslim. It is like I am not a fan of Eastwoods politics but I really like his professional work.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/olympic-pressure-wrestler-kyle-snyder-relies-faith-help-him-cope

[sgallan 592]

sgallon, i've seen some good posts from you before, and continue to respect you for that. i'll not engage you on the topic you seem frothing to debate. i do hope today is a better day for you, friend. and please don't give in to the temptation to read that with a note of condescension of disrespect; i mean it from a place of kindness and respect.

 

hope to see you around sometime.

Thanks. You know when you have LGBT family, and have for decades, going back when the hate was a part of a lot of religious identity, up to physical confrontations (in one once with gay family, I had the wrestler thing so able to help but still not fun) you tend to view an awful lot of this countries primary religion a little different. Not looking for a debate, just letting you know the background.

[sgallan 592]

https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/olympic-pressure-wrestler-kyle-snyder-relies-faith-help-him-cope

Meh, I see that stuff on my various feeds I just delete it. I am interested in his wrestling. I could otherwise care less if he believes in pink unicorns who blow rainbow farts. That and other than the obligatory 'grace of god' reference he actually talks about wrestling a lot. Edited June 14, 2018 by sgallan

[AHamilton 527]

Meh, I am not looking for fans. I have a cool dog and some cats..... not a fan of humans. And as far as religion I have actually read the Bible more than once, all the Mormon stuff, some of the Koran, a bunch of bahai stuff, Buddhist stuff. Not a lot of the India religions. I am pretty well versed in Wiccan and some other occult stuff. Eastern religions are generally less brutal. Christians in the US, well at least the noisy ones, are a combination of Republican Jesus types mixed in with Talibangelicals. They are a political version of the religion where the dividing line between faith and politics scews to politics or worse. Otherwise all beliefs in the super natural are mostly equally absurd to me. I view Wiccan, the magical power of crystals, and the Christian god as all equal in the absurdities.

 

And I wasn't trying to be a fanboy.  I was just saying that I have enjoyed some of your breakdowns of wrestlers techniques, matches etc.

 

I made the statement that it was an unbalanced article, almost trying to paint Snyder as the bad guy.  

[sgallan 592]

And I wasn't trying to be a fanboy. I was just saying that I have enjoyed some of your breakdowns of wrestlers techniques, matches etc.

 

I made the statement that it was an unbalanced article, almost trying to paint Snyder as the bad guy.

Well we, and that means me as well, do tend to see things that from our world view, beliefs, and experiences.

[AHamilton 527]

Well we, and that means me as well, do tend to see things that from our world view, beliefs, and experiences.

 

You could also count the references, and the tone of the references,  to particular belief systems.

 

I mean, the author didn't even reference that Saduleev went straight to his Hajj from Worlds!

 

I'm pretty sure the article was designed to make Snyder the villain.

[spartak 15]

So now 97KGs is no longer 213lbs, but rather 223lbs?  Which is what you just said Snyder walks around at?  But I'M the dummy?

 

Lol, read your contributions to the Final X thread, and tell me who the dummy is you psycho.

I was waiting that one of you answers, but I want to answer this question. OF COURSE if the weigh in done day before the wrestler will quickly put back all his weight and even more. Rehydrate himself, get plenty of food. He has more than 12 hrs to recuperate. I like that they returned every day weigh ins( like old days). It will not probably stop wrestlers from cutting weight, but they will not have enough time to gain 20 lbs. And the size difference will not be significant. It will be more fair. And we hopefully see fair match between Snyder and Sadullaev. 

[AHamilton 527]

I was waiting that one of you answers, but I want to answer this question. OF COURSE if the weigh in done day before the wrestler will quickly put back all his weight and even more. Rehydrate himself, get plenty of food. He has more than 12 hrs to recuperate. I like that they returned every day weigh ins( like old days). It will not probably stop wrestlers from cutting weight, but they will not have enough time to gain 20 lbs. And the size difference will not be significant. It will be more fair. And we hopefully see fair match between Snyder and Sadullaev. 

 

The last one was fair.

[NJWC 305]

Thanks. You know when you have LGBT family, and have for decades, going back when the hate was a part of a lot of religious identity, up to physical confrontations (in one once with gay family, I had the wrestler thing so able to help but still not fun) you tend to view an awful lot of this countries primary religion a little different. Not looking for a debate, just letting you know the background.

I’m far from a bible beater, close to atheist actually, but the moral equivalency that idiots try to pawn off between Christianity and Islam is ignorant at best, moronic at worst.

List the thousands killed in the name of Christianity over the last 25-50 years. What’s that? They don’t exist?

Now compare to the hundreds of thousands killed in the.name of Islam.

[NJWC 305]

I was waiting that one of you answers, but I want to answer this question. OF COURSE if the weigh in done day before the wrestler will quickly put back all his weight and even more. Rehydrate himself, get plenty of food. He has more than 12 hrs to recuperate. I like that they returned every day weigh ins( like old days). It will not probably stop wrestlers from cutting weight, but they will not have enough time to gain 20 lbs. And the size difference will not be significant. It will be more fair. And we hopefully see fair match between Snyder and Sadullaev.

First match was unfair? Sadulaev eas forced to bump up?

Snyder was given points as a head start? Red was biased?

What was unfair, in the finals of the world championship, about the match?