Buckxell 145 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 She pulled out of Final X at Lehigh. Any insight on what’s wrong? I hope it’s not another concussion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,194 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 There’s a thread somewhere here on the topic. I’ll try to find and bump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliWrestler 48 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) It’s concussion she’s still recovering, they will wrestle later Edited June 19, 2018 by CaliWrestler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin 1,453 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 oh yeaaaah :) now USA must send other wrestlers, it is what it is. or you will go against the age-old rules?! who win wtt 100% go to world, doesn't matter injury or other reason. U didn't WTT? okay, bye! Helen bye! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 322 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 oh yeaaaah :) now USA must send other wrestlers, it is what it is. or you will go against the age-old rules?! who win wtt 100% go to world, doesn't matter injury or other reason. U didn't WTT? okay, bye! Helen bye! Since she is a returning gold medalist and is legitimately injured with paperwork from an approved doctor she can request to wrestle at a later date. But nice job being a douche though. 1 John Coctostan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 403 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 yes, the person who wins gets to go. we aren't the USSR or the new USSR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,675 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 It’s concussion she’s still recovering, they will wrestle later Is this a guess or was this confirmed? She wrestled BTS, did she get another one since then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,598 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) This rule has me on the fence. She reps us well. She has a nice streak going - three golds in a row - but fair and even competition is ultimately best. Nick Marable had a doctor's note as well. Anyone really think that was legit? Edited June 19, 2018 by Plasmodium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,598 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 yes, the person who wins gets to go. we aren't the USSR or the new USSR ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyum 235 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 This rule has me on the fence. She reps us well. She has a nice streak going - three golds in a row - but fair and even competition is ultimately best. Nick Marable had a doctor's note as well. Anyone really think that was legit? Different criteria in place now vs then. Marable would not have qualified for the wrestle off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,133 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) This rule has me on the fence. She reps us well. She has a nice streak going - three golds in a row - but fair and even competition is ultimately best. Nick Marable had a doctor's note as well. Anyone really think that was legit?The rules explicitly state that if she has a Usa wrestling approved doctor write an injury note and it is submitted at least 48 prior to final x, they will reschedule it. This applies to all Fjnal X wrestlers. If Nick Reenan did this, his match vs Davis Taylor would’ve been postponed. This isn’t preferential treatment for Helen. Edit: correction below Edited June 19, 2018 by Housebuye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 744 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 This applies to all Fjnal X wrestlers. If Nick Reenan did this, his match vs Davis Taylor would’ve been postponed. This isn’t preferential treatment for Helen. Not quite. From the article on TheMat.com: According to the 2018 General World Team Trials Procedures, “only a 2017 Senior World medalist who earned an automatic berth into the final wrestle-off can request a delay of the Final Wrestle-Off for medical reasons.†1 Housebuye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,133 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 Not quite. From the article on TheMat.com: According to the 2018 General World Team Trials Procedures, “only a 2017 Senior World medalist who earned an automatic berth into the final wrestle-off can request a delay of the Final Wrestle-Off for medical reasons.†Ah interesting. Thanks. That’s not what I was told. I should’ve gone to the source. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry_Fish 313 Report post Posted June 19, 2018 we aren't the USSR or the new USSR You sure? 2 Crotalus and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denger 209 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 Maroulis is one of my favorite wrestlers, and easily my fav in WFS. I hope she recovers. Also, I hope there are opportunities for her that don't involve winning more medals. She deserves them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 As much as I hate to say this; she needs to retire. Every time she gets one going forward it will further seriously affect her quality of life for the remainder of her life. I love her wrestling but you only have one brain and it will not rewire itself. 2 TheRealOne9050 and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,133 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 As much as I hate to say this; she needs to retire. Every time she gets one going forward it will further seriously affect her quality of life for the remainder of her life. I love her wrestling but you only have one brain and it will not rewire itself.I don’t think this injury being a concussion is confirmed. If that is the case, I agree. Huge Helen fan and it will be a blow to our women’s program, but her health should come first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspart 193 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 I am not much into women's wrestling. I don't care for it. Helen is as close as it gets for me and I like to watch her compete. Unfortunately, I have to agree. With what we are learning about concussions, it might be time for her to give it up or wear a football helmet. I don't think the football helmet is legal. mspart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmsu34 16 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 One less wfs match I have to sit through this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 One less wfs match I have to sit through this weekend.Grew up to be a troll eh? Your mommy must be so proud. 2 Buckeyebison and pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 I am not much into women's wrestling. I don't care for it. Helen is as close as it gets for me and I like to watch her compete. Unfortunately, I have to agree. With what we are learning about concussions, it might be time for her to give it up or wear a football helmet. I don't think the football helmet is legal. mspart Tried the padded headgear and fitted mouthpiece with mine, didn't matter. As soon as there was some sort of contact that rattled her even a little she would fall apart even after almost a year and no symptoms.That was when I knew it was over. She didn't even remember that day and said I made her quit wrestling for no reason. When a told her what had happened she did get a fuzzy recollection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) I don’t think this injury being a concussion is confirmed. If that is the case, I agree. Huge Helen fan and it will be a blow to our women’s program, but her health should come first. It is 100 % confirmed. There is a link on the other thread or just type in her name with concussion and it pops right up. NBC sports did a long article on it. Really really bad stuff. Look it up, read it, get back to me. Edited June 21, 2018 by sgallan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgallan 592 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 Reposting the link...... https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/05/16/helen-maroulis-wrestling-concussion/ I am pretty sure the injury is about the above article. Her symptoms, and the time she had those symptoms, is severe. At this point I have no doubt a few people, doctors, family (I would hope), USA wrestling, all are aware, and probably torn as to what to do. They shouldn't be. Anything from here on out will be destructive towards the rest of her life. Every concussion going forward makes things worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 744 Report post Posted June 22, 2018 Yes, she had a concussion. Nobody is claiming she didn’t. We don’t know that the injury keeping her out of Final X this week is a concussion, and it would be terrible if that’s what it is. I still can’t believe they let her wrestle in the dark. If you have to be in the dark to train, you’re not ready to train. Whoever cleared her for that is irresponsible at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmsu34 16 Report post Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Tried the padded headgear and fitted mouthpiece with mine, didn't matter. As soon as there was some sort of contact that rattled her even a little she would fall apart even after almost a year and no symptoms.That was when I knew it was over. She didn't even remember that day and said I made her quit wrestling for no reason. When a told her what had happened she did get a fuzzy recollection. That’s fact what I posted, you just quote trolled three straight people. Maybe you need padded headgear? 😂😂 Edited June 22, 2018 by cmsu34 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
